Killing frogs

Does anyone know what kills frogs by chewing off all their legs and leaving
the body behind? I suspect a cat. I know herons and snakes eat them whole.
There are no snappers in the ponds because of the nets. What other than a
cat would do this to frogs. We have almost no frogs left and were once
crawling with them.

The smaller 900g pond no longer has a net or fish. It's for lilies and frogs
now... but there are almost no frogs now. :*(
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Reel McKoi

Reel McKoi wrote:
> Does anyone know what kills frogs by chewing off all their legs and
> leaving the body behind? I suspect a cat. I know herons and snakes eat
> them whole. There are no snappers in the ponds because of the nets. What
> other than a cat would do this to frogs. We have almost no frogs left
> and were once crawling with them.
>
> The smaller 900g pond no longer has a net or fish. It's for lilies and
> frogs now... but there are almost no frogs now. :*(

My cat kills frogs in the way described.....usually it is just the guts
left on the doorstep with maybe a leg or two to allow you to identify
the poor victim but not always....he did bring in a grass snake once and
deliver the entire body onto one of the children's beds at lights
out....of course following the screams lights out extended quite a few
hours afterwards that evening.....

Seriously frogs seem to be quite fickle.....my old water
feature/fountain thingy had at least 4 frogs in residence....my
replacement pond only has two at the moment but it is new.....I would
suspect that the changes you have made to the pond have caused the frogs
to decamp for a while - they or their desendants, or new frogs will
probably be back next year if not sooner....they seem to have a great
ability to sniff out water

Gill

(waving to Gill!)

A friend's cat left half a frog on her carpet, the bottom
half. I think, if it is a pet cat, and they are fed, they
really don't have the appetite to finish off their prey
and maybe it doesn't taste as good as Tasty Kitty
Kibbles.

k :-)

"Gill Passman" <> wrote in message
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> Reel McKoi wrote:
>> Does anyone know what kills frogs by chewing off all their legs and
>> leaving the body behind? I suspect a cat. I know herons and snakes eat
>> them whole. There are no snappers in the ponds because of the nets. What
>> other than a cat would do this to frogs. We have almost no frogs left and
>> were once crawling with them.
>>
>> The smaller 900g pond no longer has a net or fish. It's for lilies and
>> frogs now... but there are almost no frogs now. :*(
>
> My cat kills frogs in the way described.....usually it is just the guts
> left on the doorstep with maybe a leg or two to allow you to identify the
> poor victim but not always...

This cat chews all the legs off or just the back legs and leaves the entire
body there. This last frog was still alive with no legs and died in my hand.
I was sick.

..he did bring in a grass snake once and
> deliver the entire body onto one of the children's beds at lights
> out....of course following the screams lights out extended quite a few
> hours afterwards that evening.....

I can imagine! :-O If this cat is killing snakes I'm not finding the
bodies. We have a lot of snakes here due to the rocky wooded area behind
the house. All the neighbors here are sick to death of people dumping cats
instead of taking them to the shelter.

> Seriously frogs seem to be quite fickle.....my old water feature/fountain
> thingy had at least 4 frogs in residence....my replacement pond only has
> two at the moment but it is new.....I would suspect that the changes you
> have made to the pond have caused the frogs to decamp for a while - they
> or their desendants, or new frogs will probably be back next year if not
> sooner....they seem to have a great ability to sniff out water

The numbers were low before we cleaned out the ponds this weekend. I noticed
less frogs at my neighbors stock pond as well, but didn't look in the grass
for dead ones.


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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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Reel McKoi wrote:
> Does anyone know what kills frogs by chewing off all their legs and
> leaving the body behind?

FRENCHMEN

>> Does anyone know what kills frogs by chewing off all their legs and
>> leaving the body behind?

©anadian Ponder wrote:
> FRENCHMEN

LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
k :-)

"©anadian Ponder" <" "@greatnowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Reel McKoi wrote:
>> Does anyone know what kills frogs by chewing off all their legs and
>> leaving the body behind?
>
> FRENCHMEN
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I'll keep my eyes open for them. I hope they're good looking. ;-)
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RM....
Frugal ponding since 1995.
rec.ponder since late 1996.
Zone 6. Middle TN USA
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kathy wrote:
>
> ©anadian Ponder wrote:
>
>>FRENCHMEN
>
>
> LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
> k :-)
>

They taste just like chicken.....but with the disadvantage that there
just isn't as much meat on a frog leg as there is on a drumstick or
chicken wing....

Gill

Gill Passman wrote:

> kathy wrote:
> >
>> ©anadian Ponder wrote:
>>
>>>FRENCHMEN
>>
>>
>> LOLOLOLOLOLOL!
>> k :-)
>>
>
> They taste just like chicken.....

Frenchmen??

> but with the disadvantage that there
> just isn't as much meat on a frog leg

Oh...
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derek

Woe is me. Not enough wine in the world, I expect, to
try frog legs or snails! FrogZilla, out in the pond as I
type, is relieved to hear it.

k :-)