black fish with white spots

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Old 05-27-2008, 11:05 AM


I just put my gold fish out to the pond a few weeks ago and now my black fan
tail has raised white- ish spots all over his body ,more around his gills.I
have never seen this before ,he is 2 yrs old .anyone have any suggestions.




wilma
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Old 05-27-2008, 04:26 PM
Nan & Rich Zitney
 
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On May 27, 10:05 am, "wilma" <tandryc...@sasktel.net> wrote:
> I just put my gold fish out to the pond a few weeks ago and now my black fan
> tail has raised white- ish spots all over his body ,more around his gills.I
> have never seen this before ,he is 2 yrs old .anyone have any suggestions.


Wilma this sounds like ICK. Do some research on Google and I'm sure
you will find pics and cures. Usually not to hard to get rid of.I
think we used salt, but my senior citizen brain refuses to pull that
info up. Imagine that!!
Good Luck,
Nan

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Old 05-28-2008, 12:07 AM
~ jan
 
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:05:19 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:

>I just put my gold fish out to the pond a few weeks ago and now my black fan
>tail has raised white- ish spots all over his body ,more around his gills.I
>have never seen this before ,he is 2 yrs old .anyone have any suggestions.
>

Tiny like salt or more like pimples? If on just the gills and front of the
pec fins, this means your goldfish is a boy. If all over the body, it is
ick. Bring it back inside to a tank and treat with 0.3% salt. ~ jan
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:15 AM
wilma
 
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thanks for the help, it is definitly ick,i will put him back inside and put
some salt in the water.I also read to use an antibiotic also,my fish has
the ick ALL over ,poor guy.
"~ jan" <> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:05:19 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:
>
>>I just put my gold fish out to the pond a few weeks ago and now my black
>>fan
>>tail has raised white- ish spots all over his body ,more around his
>>gills.I
>>have never seen this before ,he is 2 yrs old .anyone have any suggestions.
>>

> Tiny like salt or more like pimples? If on just the gills and front of the
> pec fins, this means your goldfish is a boy. If all over the body, it is
> ick. Bring it back inside to a tank and treat with 0.3% salt. ~ jan
> ------------
> Zone 7a, SE Washington State
> Ponds: www.jjspond.us
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Old 05-28-2008, 10:15 AM
Nick Cramer
 
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~ jan <> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:05:19 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:

[ . . . ]
> Tiny like salt or more like pimples? If on just the gills and front of
> the pec fins, this means your goldfish is a boy. If all over the body, it
> is ick. Bring it back inside to a tank and treat with 0.3% salt. ~ jan


Ick (Ichthyophthirius multifilis) can spread rapidly. Keep an eye on your
other fish.

Jan's recommendation is excellent and used successfully by many ponders and
aquarium folks. You'll find an excellent treatise at:

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/pdffiles/FA/FA00600.pdf

This is a five page .pdf file

Don't use copper sulfate unless you know your pond chemistry and know what
you're doing!

Malachite Green is extremely toxic. There's a product which combines
Malachite Green with formalin, which have a synergistic effect when
combined and thus can be used at lower concentrations, with care. Product
information at:

http://www.novalek.com/kordon/ridich_pond/index.htm

Good luck with your fishies!

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Old 05-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Nick Cramer
 
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"wilma" <> wrote:
> thanks for the help, it is definitly ick,i will put him back inside and
> put some salt in the water.I also read to use an antibiotic also,my fish
> has the ick ALL over ,poor guy.
> "~ jan" <> wrote in message
> [ . . . ]
> > Tiny like salt or more like pimples? If on just the gills and front of
> > the pec fins, this means your goldfish is a boy. If all over the body,
> > it is ick. Bring it back inside to a tank and treat with 0.3% salt. ~


FYI 100 gallons of water weighs 833 lbs. 0.3% salt (uniodized) would be 2.5
lbs/100 gallons.

Hope the little guy makes it. Remember to keep an eye on your other fish
and treat the pond! Ich multiply at an alarming rate.

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Old 05-29-2008, 10:47 PM
~ jan
 
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On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:15:39 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:

>thanks for the help, it is definitly ick,i will put him back inside and put
>some salt in the water.I also read to use an antibiotic also,my fish has
>the ick ALL over ,poor guy.


No need for an antibiotic, and I wouldn't recommend doing both. ~ jan
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Old 05-30-2008, 10:19 AM
wilma
 
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well, i moved my fish to a 15 gal tank ,where he was before,and put some
aquarium salt in and its been 24 hours and he looks 50 % better.he is even
looking for food.I got some ick fast dissolving tablets and will put one in
later.My other fish still in the pond don't seem to have any ick yet ,but
iam watching them.
"~ jan" <> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 28 May 2008 09:15:39 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:
>
>>thanks for the help, it is definitly ick,i will put him back inside and
>>put
>>some salt in the water.I also read to use an antibiotic also,my fish has
>>the ick ALL over ,poor guy.

>
> No need for an antibiotic, and I wouldn't recommend doing both. ~ jan
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> Ponds: www.jjspond.us
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Old 05-31-2008, 03:09 PM
~ jan
 
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On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:19:07 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:

>My other fish still in the pond don't seem to have any ick yet ,but
>i am watching them.


My understanding about ick is that it is always present unless the water
temp is very high, over 84F kills it (I believe). A fish under stress, like
just being moved out to the pond from inside, will some time catch it.
~ jan
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:55 AM
dr-solo@wi.rr.com
 
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the cycle of ich is temp dependent. higher temp ich cycles faster. fish are
carriers of ich. the fastest way fish get ich is a fast drop in temp brings ich out.
Ingrid

On Sat, 31 May 2008 14:09:05 EDT, ~ jan <> wrote:

>On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:19:07 EDT, "wilma" <> wrote:
>
>>My other fish still in the pond don't seem to have any ick yet ,but
>>i am watching them.

>
>My understanding about ick is that it is always present unless the water
>temp is very high, over 84F kills it (I believe). A fish under stress, like
>just being moved out to the pond from inside, will some time catch it.
>~ jan
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>Zone 7a, SE Washington State
>Ponds: www.jjspond.us


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