Interesting article on KHV status in the UK

http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.u....php?news=1257

Thought this might be of interest to some.....

Gill

Our very favorite pond store had to shut down
due to having khv fish.
Never bought any fish there but they had the most
wonderful set up for plants and I really enjoyed them
the years they were open.
Very sad to lose them.

k :-)

wrote:
> Our very favorite pond store had to shut down
> due to having khv fish.

That appears a little harsh......IMO if they can deal with the problem
and more fundementally recognise that there is a problem and isolate it
then they should not be forced to stop trading.......of course,
economics come into this and maybe they just lost too much
money......sad......


> Never bought any fish there but they had the most
> wonderful set up for plants and I really enjoyed them
> the years they were open.
> Very sad to lose them.

Plants, if not mixed with the fish shouldn't carry any virus.....but as
we are all too familiar a lot of places run the same filtration system
and water across everything.....

Gill

jan knows more of the nitty gritty of the
whole story. I think the poor fellow got
a bad batch of fish, supplier's fault?

Trying to remember if the water was in
both plant and fish areas... I don't think it
was. I'm not a fish person.

He did have the nicest plants, up high,
fresh water running thru, big sizes.

We miss him!
k :-)

On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:37:26 CST, Gill Passman
<> wrote:

>That appears a little harsh......IMO if they can deal with the problem
>and more fundementally recognise that there is a problem and isolate it
>then they should not be forced to stop trading.......of course,
>economics come into this and maybe they just lost too much
>money......sad......

My understanding, all from hearsay, was they got scared when they thought
they may be facing lawsuits. Not that closing would have stopped
litigation.... I guess they didn't want to take a chance with the future.
Apparently he was making serious money off selling cheap koi and didn't
think he could make a go of it with just plants. :-(

>Plants, if not mixed with the fish shouldn't carry any virus.....but as
>we are all too familiar a lot of places run the same filtration system
>and water across everything.....
>Gill

This happened. Plus hearsay was that if a person took a plant home, stuck
it in their pond, didn't like it, brought it back and he'd plunk right back
in with the rest, cross contamination. Then there was the case of the
rent-a-muck-vac. Where these things sterilized?

My attitude is, that it is the hobbyists' responsibility to protect
themselves. Any new stuff coming in either needs a PP treatment or
quarantine time. It isn't surprising for me to buy a new plant and put it
in a container for the season, even if I do PP it.

Anyway it was a sad day that a few naive newbies (or uninformed oldies)
threaten a lawsuit and scared them out of business. I'm sure if they had
run this business for years without a problem it would have been different
(maybe). The only ones who really know the whys and whats are them. Anyone
running a small family business, or trying, has my respect, as the cards
are so stacked against one especially with the health insurance crisis that
the US is suffering. :-( ~ jan
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