Anyone else have their filter inside?

Discussion in 'Pond Archive' started by Bill Stock, Jun 11, 2007.

  1. Bill Stock

    Bill Stock Guest

    I've been trying to find/negotiate a place for my barrel filter, but there
    really are not any good options.

    But I realized that the basement entryway is only about 15' from the pond.
    This is basically a 8x4 concrete room where the outside stairs turn to meet
    the basement entry door. It even has it's own drain. This is where I ran the
    electrical conduit to the pond. The downside is that I have to dig up the
    patio stones again, although I may tunnel (water drill) this time.

    One problem I see is that the top of the barrels would be below the level of
    the pond, unless I raised the barrels. Raising the barrels is probably safer
    from a leak perspective, but it would mean having 500 ponds 4' off the
    ground. A couple of other pros I can think of are having the aerator/heater
    inside during the winter.

    Any one else done this? Any cautions/ideas?
    Bill Stock, Jun 11, 2007
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    ~ jan Guest

    IMHO, you want those barrels level or somewhat above the pond level, else
    any overflow (think heavy rain) is gonna happen at the barrels...... and
    then the drain in the floor gets clogged.... and it is omg time. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jun 11, 2007
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  3. Bill Stock


    having drained my pond with various filters that got plugged up in
    unusual and various and creative ways, I finally got the point and my
    filter, if it overflows drains right back into my pond.
    Murphy's rule is: the further from the pond the greater the number of
    opportunities for leaking and overflowing outside the pond.
    , Jun 11, 2007
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    randyinaloha Guest

    500 lbs. is not very much. With good bracing and support a filter
    would work fine.
    Always keep everything above pond level.

    randyinaloha, Jun 12, 2007
  5. Bill Stock

    Bill Stock Guest

    wrote in message
    Thanks, I'll have to build in a few safeguards, but I think it will work
    out. I get a hundred gallons of filter space and I don't take up any
    pond/garden space. I may reach Koi-dom yet. :)
    Bill Stock, Jun 12, 2007
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    Bill Stock Guest

    "randyinaloha" wrote in message
    More like a 1,000 pounds, but even that's not too bad. I've got some posts
    and plywood I was thinking of using for my filter box that should do the
    Bill Stock, Jun 12, 2007
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    Bill Stock Guest

    "~ jan" wrote in message
    LOL, yeah the other brain cell flickered after I wrote the original message.
    Even though the barrels are water tight, it's probably best to keep the tops
    above water level.

    I was checking this out tonight and it appears that I will have to keep the
    barrels tight to the ceiling to do this. Although it's a little hard to tell
    by looking. I'll have to dig out the water level to be sure where the water
    level lies in the 'filter room'. On the bright side, it's even less than 15'
    from the 'filter room' to the middle of the pond.
    Bill Stock, Jun 12, 2007
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    ~ jan Guest

    Define tight? (Imagining Bill trying to clean filters with only 2" of
    clearance.) ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jun 12, 2007
  9. Bill Stock

    Bill Stock Guest

    "~ jan" wrote in message
    Tight, as in take them off the shelf to clean them. But I'll put a drain
    valve on the bottom so I can flush them. I'll also use flexible hose for the
    last connection so I can take them apart fairly easily.

    Not ideal, but I want my Koi. I think moving the tree and tunneling for the
    drain will be big chores compared to digging the pond.
    Bill Stock, Jun 13, 2007
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    ~ jan Guest

    I'm sure, there is something less "fun" about digging the filter.

    Today DH & myself dumped the wheelbarrows as DS dug the hole for the lily
    pond filter, thankfully only a 2 barrel filter. Still the hole looks
    monstrous and we've still got about 1/4th to go.... at least I'm hoping it
    is only 1/4th. He dug down and found the bottom drain pipe, so we know how
    deep it needs to be now... deep. The ground where it is going is much
    higher than the ground around the lily pond. Definitely some retaining
    walls will need to be put in place. Fortunately it is pure sand, we went
    from 1/3 done to 3/4 done in about an hour. Then my work force complained
    about some business they needed to keeping running.... so I had to let them
    break for the day. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jun 13, 2007
  11. Bill Stock

    Bill Stock Guest

    "~ jan" wrote in message

    Slackers. :)

    I don't mind digging, provided my back holds out. I find it kinda Zen. (No I
    don't do volunteer work)

    I hope to move the tree this weekend and then we'll go from there.

    Bill Stock, Jun 14, 2007
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    ~ jan Guest

    from 1/3 done to 3/4 done in about an hour. Then my work force complained
    LOL! I agree! Tomorrow hopefully we can pick up the pace again.
    Good thing you added that last bit. I don't mind physical labor either,
    especially since it is going to save me such eventually. ;-) ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jun 14, 2007
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