Black Shubunkins

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    I have a dedicated Shubunkin pond, they had babies and I ended up with 2 coloured and 18 black. They started disappearing including the adults and realised it was rats so ended up with 3 black ones left after getting rid of the rats. They are now 2 1/2 years old and still black. The fins are all black except for the inner edge which is white. I can't find anything about black Shubunkins anywhere. My other large pond has many black fish, some only change after 10 years but most change within 3 -4 years. I love having black fish as they add mystery but don't know anything about black Shubunkin. Will they change?
     
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    Wikipedia states there are 3 types of Shubunkin. Mine are long fin. The more that I have read, to be a shubunkin it has to have blue in it, I always thought black, white and orange. Interesting read regarding the 3 scale types and the variations possible from breeding and so based on the article you probably have black comets if they have long tails.

    http://www.about-goldfish.com/goldfish-scale-types.html
     
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    My pond is a dedicated Shubunkin pond, no comets and the Shubunkins are mostly blue so why are the babies all black?
     
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    Welcome to the forum Sisha

    I'm not an expert, but I think they are born black and then change. That's also what I've experienced in my pond (mix of common goldies and shubs). However, I would expect them to develop colours within 2 1/2 years! Some of mine changed colour less than 6 months after birth, others seem to take as long as 18 months.
     
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    I've had comets stay black their whole lives. Blacky was 325mm when he died a few days after a Heron attack, he was over 12 years old but everything Iv'e read is that Shubunkin are always born coloured. I'll have to keep researching.
     
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    According to the article above shubunkin are nacreous scale and mated together have 25% to produce matt and 25% to produce metallic scale offspring. Whether that is accurate I have not a clue.
     
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    Do you have koi in the pond?
     
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