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I have a goldfish in my outdoor pond, along with Koi's, that is extremely bloated. It's been like that for months. It's eating fine and swimming fine but is hugh. Yesterday I noticed 2 other goldfish starting to do the same thing. This morning I noticed one of my Shubunkins is looking the same way. I've been feeding them fall and spring Koi food, since it's still cold out, along with Multigrain Cheerios. I'm going to cut back on the Cheerio's but I don't know what's going on. The pond is about 17 x 14 and 4 1/2 feet deep. Water is clear, good filtration system. I've never had anything like this before and this pond is 23 years old. Any info would be appreciated. (sorry about the netting, lost too many fish to crane's/Blue Heron?)
 

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Hello and welcome to the GPF! Sorry that it's some fish trouble that's brought you here.

Your pond (based on your dimensions) is over 7000 gallons - does that sound right? How many fish are in your pond? Are they all goldfish? Have these fish all been in the pond all along or have you added any new ones recently?

A few additional questions - do the fish appear to be "pine coning"? Are the scales sticking up from their bodies? It's hard to tell from the picture. Do you test your water? If so, what are the numerical readings that you're getting. (Clear water is not necessarily a sign of healthy water.) Do you add any chemicals or additives to the pond - water treatment or bacteria? What's the water temperature? Where are you located? (You should feed based on the water temperature - not the air temperature, just to be clear.) What kind of filtration do you have on your pond? Have you made any changes or done anything recently other than start feeding the fish?

And I would stop the Cheerios altogether forever - there's literally no nutritional value in them for your fish (or humans either for that matter). I'm not sure where the idea came from to feed pond fish Cheerios, but I think it's a idea that lacks any merit.

Lots of questions - sorry! But the more information we have the better we can address your question!
 
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I have had success in reversing this with peas and salt baths just use caution with the salt baths you have to pull the fish sometimes that stress is enough to take them out. Follow the instructions on the pond salt bottle I don't even take the fish out of the net he just stays in the net and I put the net in a small container of his own pond water Plus salt. Cover so he can't jump he's only going to be in there for 3 to 5 minutes I think but make sure you read the salt bottle for how long . This treatment does a reverse osmosis and allows the fish to release the fluid the salt in the water pulls the fluid from the fish relieving it. It also helps if it's got fungus or parasites. This doesn't work for all fish but I have saved a few fish this way good luck.
 

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Hi Fishymom- Have you been feeding your fish all winter? Where are you located at? Feeding below 50 degrees is not recommended as the fish cannot digest.
 
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Just do not leave him in the saltwater too long it will kill him. I usually did the minimum which I think was 3 minutes and then I would put him back in the pond. I would do that two or three times a day until the bloating would go away and if he's eating feed him peas
 
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It's difficult to see clearly in the picture if there is any "pine coning". I was initially tempted to think this fish was egg bound, but then you mentioned two other gold fish and a shubunkin showing similar symptoms.
 

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@fishymom I've had a couple goldfish do that and live for years but eventually they did die. One actually got eaten by a raccoon. Now I've got one that is sorta fat and crooked. I am just going to see what happens to it and let nature takes it course. It eats and swims around like nothing is wrong. Well not feeding it right now as temps still low but it nibbles on algae like the others do. Sounds like you have several w/this problem. Guess you could try the salt bath and peas and see what happens.
 
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Thanks for all your input folks. I have been feeding all winter. The fish act hungry when I go down to the pond so I feed them. I'll admit I may be feeding them too much and will stop. And no more Cheerio's. I can't really catch the fish to do a salt treatment so I'll just hold off on the feedings and let nature take it's course and see what happens. I keep the net over the pond because I have been wiped out by large birds, Heron or cranes, not sure what they are. We live outside San Antonio TX. I thank you all for your comments and will keep you posted.
 
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Hi Fishymom- Have you been feeding your fish all winter? Where are you located at? Feeding below 50 degrees is not recommended as the fish cannot digest.
I have been feeding my fish all winter. But a mixture of Fall and Spring mix and floating pond sticks. The water temp was 54 this morning. I've stopped feeding them Cheerio's and I'm going to let nature takes it's course and see what happens. My hopes are that I'm just a bad mom in the sense that I over fed them. We'll see.
 
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Hello and welcome to the GPF! Sorry that it's some fish trouble that's brought you here.

Your pond (based on your dimensions) is over 7000 gallons - does that sound right? How many fish are in your pond? Are they all goldfish? Have these fish all been in the pond all along or have you added any new ones recently?

A few additional questions - do the fish appear to be "pine coning"? Are the scales sticking up from their bodies? It's hard to tell from the picture. Do you test your water? If so, what are the numerical readings that you're getting. (Clear water is not necessarily a sign of healthy water.) Do you add any chemicals or additives to the pond - water treatment or bacteria? What's the water temperature? Where are you located? (You should feed based on the water temperature - not the air temperature, just to be clear.) What kind of filtration do you have on your pond? Have you made any changes or done anything recently other than start feeding the fish?

And I would stop the Cheerios altogether forever - there's literally no nutritional value in them for your fish (or humans either for that matter). I'm not sure where the idea came from to feed pond fish Cheerios, but I think it's a idea that lacks any merit.

Lots of questions - sorry! But the more information we have the better we can address your question!
 
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I have had success in reversing this with peas and salt baths just use caution with the salt baths you have to pull the fish sometimes that stress is enough to take them out. Follow the instructions on the pond salt bottle I don't even take the fish out of the net he just stays in the net and I put the net in a small container of his own pond water Plus salt. Cover so he can't jump he's only going to be in there for 3 to 5 minutes I think but make sure you read the salt bottle for how long . This treatment does a reverse osmosis and allows the fish to release the fluid the salt in the water pulls the fluid from the fish relieving it. It also helps if it's got fungus or parasites. This doesn't work for all fish but I have saved a few fish this way good luck.
I'm not going to go this route but I thank you for the information. I'm not feeding them while it's still cold and no more Cheerio's. Again, thanks.
 
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Hello and welcome to the GPF! Sorry that it's some fish trouble that's brought you here.

Your pond (based on your dimensions) is over 7000 gallons - does that sound right? How many fish are in your pond? Are they all goldfish? Have these fish all been in the pond all along or have you added any new ones recently?

A few additional questions - do the fish appear to be "pine coning"? Are the scales sticking up from their bodies? It's hard to tell from the picture. Do you test your water? If so, what are the numerical readings that you're getting. (Clear water is not necessarily a sign of healthy water.) Do you add any chemicals or additives to the pond - water treatment or bacteria? What's the water temperature? Where are you located? (You should feed based on the water temperature - not the air temperature, just to be clear.) What kind of filtration do you have on your pond? Have you made any changes or done anything recently other than start feeding the fish?

And I would stop the Cheerios altogether forever - there's literally no nutritional value in them for your fish (or humans either for that matter). I'm not sure where the idea came from to feed pond fish Cheerios, but I think it's a idea that lacks any merit.

Lots of questions - sorry! But the more information we have the better we can address your question!
I am new to this forum. I had written and answered all your questions but not sure where it got posted. Let me know if you got it and if not, I'll try again. I see each individual response and don't know if it goes to that person individually or to everyone.
 
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View attachment 119225@fishymom I've had a couple goldfish do that and live for years but eventually they did die. One actually got eaten by a raccoon. Now I've got one that is sorta fat and crooked. I am just going to see what happens to it and let nature takes it course. It eats and swims around like nothing is wrong. Well not feeding it right now as temps still low but it nibbles on algae like the others do. Sounds like you have several w/this problem. Guess you could try the salt bath and peas and see what happens.
I have been feeding them all winter. I think that's hopefully the problem and nothing more severe. The water temp was 54 this morning. I've cut out the Cheerio's completely and am holding the feelings until it warms up a bit. Thanks for your input.
 
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It's difficult to see clearly in the picture if there is any "pine coning". I was initially tempted to think this fish was egg bound, but then you mentioned two other gold fish and a shubunkin showing similar symptoms.
No, there doesn't seem to be any pine coning. The scales look smooth. I believe I've been over feeding them. The water temp was 54 this morning but I've been feeding them throughout the winter. Something I shouldn't have been doing. I'm going to let nature take it's course and time will tell. No more Cheerio's either. Thanks.
 
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No, there doesn't seem to be any pine coning. The scales look smooth. I believe I've been over feeding them. The water temp was 54 this morning but I've been feeding them throughout the winter. Something I shouldn't have been doing. I'm going to let nature take it's course and time will tell. No more Cheerio's either. Thanks.
Sounds like a plan, keep in touch :)
 
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No worries on the response - you'll get the hang of it! This is a really fun, friendly, and helpful forum - we hope you'll stick around!

If your fish are all goldfish, you can pretty much leave them to their own devices food wise - then you'll know if they're just chubby or if there's another issue. Goldfish do fine in a garden pond with little or no food from their human friends - there's lots to eat in the pond that we can't even see!
 
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No worries on the response - you'll get the hang of it! This is a really fun, friendly, and helpful forum - we hope you'll stick around!

If your fish are all goldfish, you can pretty much leave them to their own devices food wise - then you'll know if they're just chubby or if there's another issue. Goldfish do fine in a garden pond with little or no food from their human friends - there's lots to eat in the pond that we can't even see!
I have 17 Koi, some quite large, and 3 large goldfish and 2 large shubunkins. I will hold off on the feedings until the weather warms up and no more Cheerio's. We'll see what nature has in store for these fish. Thanks for the input.
 
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Hi Fishy & ev,
What type of fish is that- is it a fantail or one of those that tends to be kind of round anyway?

I think your diagnosis/plan sounds good. Your pics look an awful lot like what one of my fish was going through one early spring - although yours seems a bit more rounded (hence the question about type of fish). It kinda looks egg-bound too, so that could be something to look into.

As it turns out my fishes swelling was definitely caused by feeding during cold weather (when their digestion is slow to non-existent) . I was totally freaked out thinking my fish had dropsy - but a koi pond expert on the forum I was on insisted that it was constipation, that a number of his fish go through this every year and its generally self correcting as the water warms up. It sounds funny but its not, it can be a problem. Feeding peeled peas soaked in garlic water is a good way to loosen him up - now that your water temps are better. After a few days of that I found small hard chunks on the bottom of the tank that he was passing - the same beige color as the fish food! The swelling began to go down after that, but it took a month for him to get back to normal.
 
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Hi and thanks for your input. I'm not sure what type of goldfish this is. I've named ber Bubbles and she was originally a feeder goldfish that was in a stock tank to keep down mosquitos and then put into my pond when the stock tank was removed. I've stopped feeding Cheerio's and have cut out feeding until the water warms. Right now the water temps are about 50-55 degrees. I'll have to see what happens over time and I'm hoping that it was just an overfeeding. She's been like this for months now, probably over 4-5 months. I was hoping for babies but now I just hope she survives. She eats and swims like nothing is wrong. I will keep everyone posted on how they are all doing. Warmer weather is on the way. I do appreciate everyone's input. Our pond is about 23 years old and we've never had this problem before. Here's hoping for a happy ending.
 

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