Cleaning a submersible filter

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    I have a Lifegard Aquatics All-In-One Pond Filter System...pictured below . It's been running for almost 2 months now, and yesterday was the first time I took it out with the intention of cleaning it if needed. (The company recommends cleaning every two weeks, but since it started off in a new pond, I decided to wait longer for the first cleaning.)

    So, I shut it off and as I picked it up and out of the pond, all the internal water back washed out through the filtration media and deposited a boat load of green-brown water and tiny particles back into my very clean water completely eliminating any and all visibility to a couple of inches. (No biggie; it's all good stuff, and will clear again.) When I opened the filter, it was what I considered very clean. Well, of course! It was clean because all the gunk backwashed into my pond when I lifted it out! I gave the interior unit a quick rinse to remove the larger debris.

    So, my question is this.......For those of you who have a small pond with a submersible filter system, how do you remove it for cleaning without the contents washing back into your pond as you lift the filter out? Or, should I not be concerned about all the green-brown water and particles that wash back in, just the more solid debris in and around the sponges once I have it open?

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    Well that sucks! Seems like a dumb design.

    They probably just want the solid stuff rinsed off and removed.
     
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    That's what I figured @addy1. After I wrote this post, I watched a YouTube Vid where a guy was cleaning a submersible filter he uses for his water feature. He even remarked that with a submersible filter make sure you have the hose and cord out of the way so you can lift the filter up and out of the pond as fast as possible to avoid backwash into the pond. I guess I should have done that instead of holding the filter over the pond and letting the water drain back in! This morning the pond visibility seems to be much improved.
     
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    Got to love youtube, it has helped us more than once. My hubby uses it for car repairs.

    Get the pond cleared up some then I would yank it out FAST and see if you can rinse some of the fine stuff off. Gather up some of the stuff that got washed back in.
     
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    Can you close the valve on the fountain attachment so the backwash isn't quite so drastic?
     
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    Yeah ever since I got rid of my submersible filter I've been a happy person.

    You need an external filter... any external filter... or better yet makes bog.
     
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    Good idea @MitchM. I'll do that the next time I pull it.
     
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    I don't want an external since it is a raised pond. It would require hoses going up and over the side. And, it would have to be a pretty small bog. Maybe in my next pond! ;)
     
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    I get a 5 gal bucket and as soon as I get the pump close enough, I place it in the bucket as I'm removing it. BUT, my pump goes to a filter, so there probably isn't the amt. of yuck that you have.
     
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    If only the filter would fit in a 5 gallon bucket, @Mmathis. I'm thinking more like a large Tupperware storage tote. That might do the trick! (y)
     
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    is it very big? looks like aquarium filter design , use any plastic bag perhaps
     
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    It is 16″ x 16″ x 11″.
     
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    The pond visibility improved a lot from Saturday afternoon to Sunday morning, but since then, it seems to have stalled. The water is not as clear as it was before I pulled the filter and the green/brown water backwashed into the pond. I can see the fish OK, but the water is not as clear as it was. Is this a waiting game? Or, should I pull the filter again...not letting the filter water backwash again...and rinse the debris it recollected? The water does not have a green or algae look, just a dirty look to it.
     
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    Can't hurt. It will take some time.
     
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    I have to go to Walmart today. I think I'll pick up one of those big Stearlite containers. I can submerge the container into the pond, lift the filter into it and then lift the container out of the water without the filter backwashing into the pond.
     
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    With it full of water it will be heavy!

    You could also get a laundry basket (water will pour out), a bunch of quilt batting (Walmart) line the laundry basket with the batting, thick. Put the pump in the basket surrounded by the batting. It would collect the muck the pump releases back when you pull it out.
     
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    Yes, I was thinking about the weight! I like the idea of the laundry basket lined with quilt batting. Thanks. I'll let you know how I make out.
     
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    I know how heavy those things can be when you add water.
    I had a 5 gallon bucket, with a small pump and some filter stuff, for the winter in the pond, even with drain holes I could barely lift it out of the pond.
    My lily pots, oil drain pans, get very heavy with a bit of water, kitty litter and the plant.
     
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    I used to have in-pond filters in my old pond made out of those storage totes, I'm too old to wrestle with them now. There's just no good way to do it, getting them to the surface isn't too bad, but then you have to lift the filter and the water to get it over the edge.
     
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    @addy. I took your advice. Bought a laundry basket and quilt batting this morning at Walmart. I'll let you know how it goes.

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