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You got to do a video of your plumbing and gph to where . So if I had to guess you have 3000 to the bog 5000 to the bottom of the pond to the baffles. And another 3000 for circulation?
 
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What's the total gph
I need to finish up the waterfall before I decide for certain, but probably about 5-6k gph headed up to the bog.


How many watts is the pump you bought and by whom.
I haven't bought them yet, but I will probably get several different sized perhias. They're on the high end of cheap pumps, and they're some of the most efficient pumps you can find in USA in terms of gph/watt. They're adjustable flow, so I will buy several different sizes based on needs for different parts of system and see how they do. Once I get flows dialed in I will probably replace them with higher end pumps when/if they crap out.

Plan is:

Pump #1: 6,000 gph via 3" line to bog. Split 3k to bottom of bog, dump other 3k on top for 6k gph waterfall.
Pump #2: 4000 gph via 2" lines. 1000 gph to each of 3 circulation jets and 1000 gph to bottom filter
Pump #3: 2000 gph via 2" line to deck stream

ou got to do a video of your plumbing and gph to where .
I'll definitely do a video walkthrough once I have the pumps set up.
 
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Pump #1: 6,000 gph via 3" line to bog. Split 3k to bottom of bog, dump other 3k on top for 6k gph waterfall
If your doing that why not make a extra stream/ waterfall in the bog that's 3 feet high and surround it with plants but you'll see the water between them that could be very cool
 
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I'm sure you have researched the return jet heads which as you using.?
 

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hi @combatwombat , have you decided on what fish you are having yet ? or did i miss that post ?. cheers mark
no, you haven't missed it but that'll be another 50 pages of comment/reply + months of research...;)


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If your doing that why not make a extra stream/ waterfall in the bog that's 3 feet high and surround it with plants but you'll see the water between them that could be very cool
Do you mean 3' wide? Like build up the bog gravel to create a stream running through it? I like that idea. Thinking of starting it with a bubbling rock or urn or something. Probably a rock to keep it natural looking.


I'm sure you have researched the return jet heads which as you using.?
Think I'm just going to have to test them and see what I get. Thinking I'll just puy a bunch of reducer fittings and see how placement on different jets affects the balance of flow.

Damn. I'm so eager to get outside and get some more work done, but cooped up in the office right now. Gonna put some x-mas lights on Barney later today. :)
 
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Nòooooooooo I mean 3 foot high. Yes I know dangers of volcano but with the growth in my bog you can easily hide the mountain

https://sacramentokoi.com/mazzei-jets/
and to go with these Mazza jets there's a diffuser that's open on the back side that pulls water in as it is pushing water out giving you more flow for less energy I'm trying to find them
 
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Nòooooooooo I mean 3 foot high.
Ah, ok. Well... no. LOL

there's a diffuser that's open on the back side that pulls water in as it is pushing water out giving you more flow for less energy I'm trying to find them

I did look into all those awhile ago—mazzei / eductor / venturi jets. They do seem like a good idea in certain scenarios, particularly the venturis if you have a need to add oxygen.

I decided against them some time ago because I'm trying to stick to low-head pumps, and those types of jets put a lot of back pressure on the pump.
 
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If the venturi is installed low enough bellow the surface there's no air just extra flow
 
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Been working on the waterfall between rain storms.

Decided it wouldn’t hurt to seam my liner overlaps. Did some heat welding practice runs in the garage this morning. It’s kind of tricky to get the temp setting and speed right, but I think I have it figured out. Going to be significantly harder to do in the field w/ all the folds and stuff in the way vs. clean, straight runs in the garage, but will do some more practice before doing it in the field.
 

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Been working on the waterfall between rain storms.

Decided it would t hurt to seam my liner overlaps andDid some heat welding practice runs in the garage this morning. It’s kind of tricky to get the temp and speed setting right, but I think I have it figured out. Going to be significantly harder to do in the field w/ all the folds and stuff in the way vs. clean, straight runs in the garage, but will do some more practice before doing it in the field.
thing is, is it necessary? Seems like a lot of work that might end up with issues (like melting a hole somehow) for nothing. If you have overlaps that are proper, the water should not wick. Just a thought.

That said, when I expanded I made the bog and pond one liner, so I totally understand...

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thing is, is it necessary? Seems like a lot of work that might end up with issues (like melting a hole somehow) for nothing. If you have overlaps that are proper, the water should not wick. Just a thought.

That said, when I expanded I made the bog and pond one liner, so I totally understand...

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I think it’s probably not necessary, but I have some waterfall ideas that have materialized as I work that will shrink the elevation change between the liners. No standing pools, but some cascading falls that are pretty small.

I could also just silicone the crap out of it and that would likely also be more than enough.
 

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I think it’s probably not necessary, but I have some waterfall ideas that have materialized as I work that will shrink the elevation change between the liners. No standing pools, but some cascading falls that are pretty small.

I could also just silicone the crap out of it and that would likely also be more than enough.
be careful with the silicone (as I've been finding out) because it doesn't always stick to some plastics. That is, it WILL stick initially but I've found it is peeling off really easily (working with pvc; not sure how the epdm/hdrpe will do).

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be careful with the silicone (as I've been finding out) because it doesn't always stick to some plastics. That is, it WILL stick initially but I've found it is peeling off really easily (working with pvc; not sure how the epdm/hdrpe will do).

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Silicone being a generic term in this sense. The stuff I'd actually use is PL-30. I'll do a test seam with it and see how it holds. I think Addy has used it extensively with her rpe liners.

Did the unthinkable today and started cutting the liner again!
 
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Silicone being a generic term in this sense. The stuff I'd actually use is PL-30. I'll do a test seam with it and see how it holds. I think Addy has used it extensively with her rpe liners.

Did the unthinkable today and started cutting the liner again!
don't worry, GPF has a special room right down the hall for those that tempt fate...I won't tell you what it's called...

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The stuff I'd actually use is PL-30
That stuff works, but you need to be bone dry, clean , roughed up.

The last fix I used Marine Goop. It sticks like unreal and does not ever peel off. Made to be under water salt and fresh. Very sticky to work with wear gloves or be ready to work on cleaning the hands.

This is a amazon link , the 3m's really work well. Used on a boat to stop a persistent leak around the rub rail. The 5200 if you open use up the tube it does not survive being open for xx time, like weeks. Again wear gloves.
 
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That stuff works, but you need to be bone dry, clean , roughed up.

The last fix I used Marine Goop. It sticks like unreal and does not ever peel off. Made to be under water salt and fresh. Very sticky to work with wear gloves or be ready to work on cleaning the hands.

This is a amazon link , the 3m's really work well. Used on a boat to stop a persistent leak around the rub rail. The 5200 if you open use up the tube it does not survive being open for xx time, like weeks. Again wear gloves.
Link missed? :)
 
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Link missed? :)
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