CW's Back Yard Water Garden Begins!


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I don't want to interrupt this nice conversation here. And I really don't want to jinx it, but I think I'm totally out of the bottom of the pond. So tired of pumping rain water out to do more work down there.
so, what I'm hearing is 'I have time now to engage in noodles, kissing sisters, ugly trees, and squirrels on the road'. Finally. The OTG is on their feet, 9s all across the board! :D :cool:
 
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Finally reeling him in, it was a battle but think the OTG is winning! I can't wait to see CW's pond all up and running and nicely planted and him and wife and toddler all cozied up together gazing at the well done work.
Well wait I'm not that young anymore so hope I'm still alive when he gets done
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Backhanded compliments are always best when they slice both ways. :p
we're gonna have ta recruit some youngin's for the OTG if THIS is going to be our slogan...sigh; MORE paperwork!
 
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Well, I got lost on another side quest. Tree trimmer approached me while I was shoveling sand into the pond and asked if I wanted a whole fir tree worth of logs from a tree he was falling a couple houses down. Been chopping firewood for 2 days.
 
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Be careful, it is wood with a lot of resin and it clogs the ducts, mix it with other woods
 

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Well, I got lost on another side quest. Tree trimmer approached me while I was shoveling sand into the pond and asked if I wanted a whole fir tree worth of logs from a tree he was falling a couple houses down. Been chopping firewood for 2 days.
Oh boy another firewood guy! We spend a bunch of time getting whatever free wood we can find around here. Never can you ever have enough of the stuff and we are burning it like crazy right now. Very cold up here in the PNW right now. Might even get a white Christmas this year :joyful:
 

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Oh boy another firewood guy! We spend a bunch of time getting whatever free wood we can find around here. Never can you ever have enough of the stuff and we are burning it like crazy right now. Very cold up here in the PNW right now. Might even get a white Christmas this year :joyful:
is wood burning your only heat source, JDub?
 
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is wood burning your only heat source, JDub?


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Oh yeah it is, we kicked the furnace to the curb when we moved in here 21 years ago.
Bought a gas wood splitter to save our bodies some damage. Eventually had to invest in a new saw.

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I have a friend now up the road who gives us all the trees we like forever!

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We built 4 wood sheds and they were all full at the start of this Fall. Now the smallest one is empty and working on the next one.

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Boy you sent us packing @combatwombat to the land of OTG for sure on this one but you did start the convo about wood cutting ya know :smuggrin:
 
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Oh yeah it is, we kicked the furnace to the curb when we moved in here 21 years ago.
Bought a gas wood splitter to save our bodies some damage. Eventually had to invest in a new saw.

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I have a friend now up the road who gives us all the trees we like forever!

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We built 4 wood sheds and they were all full at the start of this Fall. Now the smallest one is empty and working on the next one.

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Boy you sent us packing @combatwombat to the land of OTG for sure on this one but you did start the convo about wood cutting ya know :smuggrin:
wooooow :D
let's open the wood topic!!!
 
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wooooow :D
let's open the wood topic!!!
what--you mean branch off on another subject? I'll go out on a limb and say, ah, no; CW's leafing this subject alone, it's not his special-tree. And don't bark at me that you wanna, either; we'll put this one in the trunk and lock it--no pining for re-opening the subject. That's the root of CW's issue; tooooo much time considering what ELSE he could be leavin' behind. Don't be a sap and fir the love o God, it's oak-k to bamboo-zle us with wood topics, but if you wood, you need a kick in the aspen...oak-k, oak-k, I'm a stoppin'..!
 
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Well @brokensword aren't you just a truck load of funny sticks, lumbering around out there in the splintering toothpicks trying not to make an Ash of yourself but hey Yew are a Peach in my Paper Bark book even if you are one Monkey Puzzle of a Nut case :smuggrin:
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Oh I forgot one more bunch of wood in a temporary covered thingy. Wasn't enough room anywhere else for it. This stuff still needs cutting up.
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We put in a small ventless propane stove in our living room, between it and our windows that is all we heat with. No thanks to a wood stove, have one in the basement used it once, never since.
 

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Well @brokensword aren't you just a truck load of funny sticks, lumbering around out there in the splintering toothpicks trying not to make an Ash of yourself but hey Yew are a Peach in my Paper Bark book even if you are one Monkey Puzzle of a Nut case :smuggrin:
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Oh I forgot one more bunch of wood in a temporary covered thingy. Wasn't enough room anywhere else for it. This stuff still needs cutting up.
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AWWWWWWWWW; isn't that just the CUTEST lil wood depository anyone ever SAW??????? How can ANYONE resist??? I had a nutter idea, but you'll probably just spark it down as inFLAME-tory asphyxiations of my mind, right???

Anyone who SEES your lil wood covey though, sure should LIKE THIS POST! C'mon, you know you wanna! Let's see if we can get JDUB over the 10 like hurdle. Okay, that's all I gots, JDUB; I'm stumped!

(you know not what you hath unleashed, O' Queenie; I can do this all day and a month of Sundays!)
 
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Wow, this place gets a little loony in the winter, huh? Those are some sexy firewood pics, @j.w.

Went to pick up another "load" (what fits in the back of a subaru) of flagstone today, but there was none to be had! The stuff I need is apparently on a truck, that is stuck in the snow coming down Mt. Hood and no one is really sure when it's getting rescued.

In the mean time, I've been researching pumps again and really liking the idea of adjustable flow since circulation needs change through the seasons. And then I started wondering, why couldn't I just wire a dimer switch between any ol' pump and its power source to make any pump an adjustable one? Have to do a little more research, but I think it would work as long as you get the right kind of dimmer and don't exceed its power rating. I doubt I'll go this route, but gives me something to noodle on while I wait for a little more rock.

Also, figured out how to wash my pond sand the easy way. I just let the bottom fill up with rain water, stir up the sand to separate the silt, and then pump the silty water out. Wait for more rain and repeat.

Putting sand on the shelves has revealed that I need to upgrade my foaming game as well. It migrates down anywhere there are gaps between rocks.
 
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Wow, this place gets a little loony in the winter, huh? Those are some sexy firewood pics, @j.w.

Went to pick up another "load" (what fits in the back of a subaru) of flagstone today, but there was none to be had! The stuff I need is apparently on a truck, that is stuck in the snow coming down Mt. Hood and no one is really sure when it's getting rescued.

In the mean time, I've been researching pumps again and really liking the idea of adjustable flow since circulation needs change through the seasons. And then I started wondering, why couldn't I just wire a dimer switch between any ol' pump and its power source to make any pump an adjustable one? Have to do a little more research, but I think it would work as long as you get the right kind of dimmer and don't exceed its power rating. I doubt I'll go this route, but gives me something to noodle on while I wait for a little more rock.

Also, figured out how to wash my pond sand the easy way. I just let the bottom fill up with rain water, stir up the sand to separate the silt, and then pump the silty water out. Wait for more rain and repeat.

Putting sand on the shelves has revealed that I need to upgrade my foaming game as well. It migrates down anywhere there are gaps between rocks.
CW; seems we've had more than a few threads where varispeed pumps die and you're stuck with just the one speed it died on! I think you'd be further ahead using the ball valves and wyes/tees to get the flow you want. Remember, if you put a larger sized adaptor right at the output, you'll get more than if you stuck to the original size, so lots of latitude. And I'll bet you these varispeed pumps are more costly than those that are not! So, win win, ya know?

Best thing is to just fill the pond, let everything settle. If you got the right sand (and seems you have from earlier posts) anything light enough to rise up into the water column will eventually get sucked into the bog while the rest of the sand stays on the bottom (unless you're using jets and stir it up continuously). I set up a mini bog for my winter turtle/plant/fish pool in the basement yesterday and despite repeated rinsing, I still had a bit of cloudy water until it finally settled out. Pretty hard to get it as clean as you want initially but eventually, you'll get there; just don't stress it.
 
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CW; seems we've had more than a few threads where varispeed pumps die and you're stuck with just the one speed it died on! I think you'd be further ahead using the ball valves and wyes/tees to get the flow you want.

Yeah, I know that's the common solution. I'd prefer one that allows me to manage energy usage as well, which you don't achieve w/ just ball valves. I've found that there are some mid-grade varispeed pumps where the controller is replaceable/serviceable so a stuck controller doesn't brick the whole system.
 

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Yeah, I know that's the common solution. I'd prefer one that allows me to manage energy usage as well, which you don't achieve w/ just ball valves. I've found that there are some mid-grade varispeed pumps where the controller is replaceable/serviceable so a stuck controller doesn't brick the whole system.
hope you get better longevity than some of the other posters have. But I get it; I tend to just prioritize what gets the energy $$ and which don't. I mean, not a lot of electricity if you use the firepit outside for all your summer meals, ya know? BBQ, anyone? What IS the relative $$ diff between what I'm suggesting and what you're looking at? And the replacement cost of the controller? What is the warranty for such a unit (with controller?) i.e. how many years hopefully are you expecting? Just curious and too lazy to do all the legwork you've done!
 
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hope you get better longevity than some of the other posters have.
I've seen those complaints mostly in relation to old Aquascape variable pumps. I think they've changed their design to replaceable controllers as well.

What IS the relative $$ diff between what I'm suggesting and what you're looking at?
Depends. There are cheap-o pumps like Periha that are amphibious. They're variable speed but don't have much variability. Cost about $250 for a 6600 gph pump, but independent testing shows they don't even come close to their rating. Still, they deliver the best GPH/watt at less than 5' TDH, but lose ground quickly as TDH rises. Only expect about 4-5 years out of pump like that.

Then there is something like the Advantage Evolution 8500. It's external only, but you can drive the RPM way up or way down. Think that runs about $550. Not quite as energy efficient as Periha, but they deliver the GPH they say they will. Should get typical high quality pump longevity, and parts are readiliy available. Very popular pump with the koi pond crowd.

There are others, but those are the ones I've looked at most closely.
 

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