Design for pond

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    roscogruen

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    will be finished in about a week: 12'x12'x3' for $397 plus hose, fittings and skippy housing (total
     

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    sounds good to me! take photos as you go and keep us posted.
     
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    If I understand the drawing, you're going to have still water at both ends of the pond, and hence, debris will tend to collect there.
     
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    yes i think otter is right ...then you will end up with all the problems i have !!
    but im sure others can help you out :icon_smile:
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    is that a spray bar and and bottom return on your filter?
     
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    koiguy..., that is the plan. i've taken those ideas from what i've seen on youtube.com.

    is the spraybar necessary?
    is the bottom return okay? i was thinking to run a bottom and top intake to the pump.

    advice from seasoned ponders is appreciated...r
     
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    otter, et al.,
    where would the two "still spots" be? the pump and two intakes (bottom and top skimmer) will be at furthermost area of pond. the wind even tends to blow towards this area.

    please explain. i'll be back at it later today after a long, cool break.

    i've about two more feet to dig out. so about half done digging.

    r
     

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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    an upflow is more efficient and allows the heigth for a waterfall... flush cleaning you dont even get your hands wet. water returns from to pond near the top of filter. pile some rocks around it you dont see it. want a higher water fall use a 55 gallon drum for a lower profile use a stocktank.. check out "my 70 gallon skippy filter" in the diy section.. the 'pond and waterfall redo progress' pix in the photography section for the lower profile stock tank style. and
     
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    koiguy, are you using this type of filter?
    It seems better if i had intake of pump at lowest point in pond. if i used this, i'd have to run PVC pipe across pond and split to skimmer and also pull off bottom.
    what are your ideas?
     
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    very beautiful design. Is there all faclities to inlet and outlet of water? In rainy season how to safe the fish?
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    yes i use this filter.. thats my "my 70 gallon skippy filter" thread low profile easy to hide, for you a 100 or 150 gallon would be good for 3000 gals if your gonna have alot of fish. check out my waterfall in the gallery or the picture threads in photograhy section.
    and yes your pump goes in th furthest deepst part of pond from waterfall or return.
     
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    "Gardening" - yes there will be a drain, just not sure what side will be the lowest point yet. good thought!
    "Koiguy" - cool. i'll look at photo now! i didn't understand what "upflow" meant.
     
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    At the left and right sides of the picture. Maybe I'm not understanding your drawing, but it looks like the water flows across the short axis of the pond, leaving the ends with only eddy currents.
     
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    otter, you are right. the pond was not designed well. there will be "dead spots" in the pond. the rain has melted the dirt into the grass and i'm kicking myself for not having better planned this.
     
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    Hey. At least you're figuring this out before the pond is complete and full of fish. Things are still fairly easy to fix at this stage. I suggest that you stop digging for now and concentrate on research and planning. I wish the previous owner of my pond had done that. :):banghead3::)
     
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    otter,
    i'm having a heck of a time deciding on the filter. it must be cheap and efficient. i found an above ground filter with primer pot that looks great but i've no where to bury it. in the picture you'll see rose bushes and ornamental trees. girlfriend's mom planted those so i can' think of touchin the roots more than i have with pond.

    i could use part of pond for external above ground pump, but then building the wall inside othe pond hole would bring on more issues - the cement/cinder blocks would run this project over budget and i doubt HDPE liner would form to the cinderblocks or cement.

    i've considered the laguna 4200 but its output at 6' is ~2850gph. pulling through a skimmer it'd be less.
     
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    How much room have you got for the filter? And how much room would you have for it if it looked like a small planted pond?
     
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    otter,
    i responded and now that i don't see my response. this website must have a bug to be worked out.
    i meant to write, "pump" and not "filter."
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    you asked where my filter was in the gallery pix... the water fall and mound are built around it..low profile,easy to hide, and 70 gallons of filter to boot!
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    here are some pix with the upper flat stone removed so you can see.. i added a 18" extension to the waterfall weir.
     

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