Diverting rainwater into pond


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My pond is 10m by 8m and frequently needs topping up. I don't think there is a leak through the liner.

I'm toying with the idea of diverting rainwater from the roof of the house into the pond, using a 20m buried pipe. I think the angles are such that the water will flow into the pond ok.

To avoid overfilling the pond, I would fit some kind of a gate so as to be able to 'switch off' the flow into the pond

Has anyone tried this I wonder? What could possibly go wrong!
 
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Hello and welcome!

How much is it going down, and how often are you having to fill it? If there is a leak, you really might want to locate that leak. Leaks tend to grow larger over time.

As to your question about using roof run-off….not something I am familiar with, but I know that others do. They can discuss the logistics.
 

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Welcome!

I use a 4" PVC pipe from my downspout to my upper pond. All is above ground since it is close and my ponds are on a slope. I used to put the pipe in place before rain and then remove it. I have since added and extra overflow to my first pond, a stock tank with a turtle, which then flows to my lower pond, in-ground liner pond. I designed the lower pond to have a natural overflow with liner over the top and down the slope and natural rock straining the overflow. I now leave the pipe in place 24/7 since the ponds can handle the overflow.

In your case, if wanting to control the flow; sounds like you would need some type of diverter valve on your downspout. I have seen something like that included with rain barrel kits; if you want something ready made.
 

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I have 4 down spouts feeding my pond, which is downhill from our house. I put in a low area covered with rocks letting the water flow through them so fish don't get washed out.

A good rain the pond is really full and gets a good water turnover.
 
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I collect from the roof it goes a short distance underground where it empties under a Boulder in the pond. The pond has a negative edge and never fluctuates. Its always the same water level as the pond d has a negative edge so if it rains and throws a 1000 gallons it overflows the negative edge where it then e ds in a 3000 gallon cistern.
The cistern has an o error fow if to much water goesin itsimpmy overflows low side and drains away.
 
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My metal roof rain gutters empty into rain barrels with overflow diverters. I use the water in the rain barrels to top off my little pond as needed. I have read that some roof materials can be toxic, but don’t know any details.
 
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I have read that some roof materials can be toxic, but don’t know any details.
I have had asphalt and metal roof gutters feeding my ponds for over 10 years, frogs, fish, etc do just fine. No toxicity.
 

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I have read that some roof materials can be toxic, but don’t know any details.
don't believe everything you read or hear today that's for sure. Many and i do mean many will say the bog is the worst for your pond. yet mother nature has done it this way for millions of years. others will say use a uv that kills the algae well not sure about you but i seldom eat anything alive but my food was picked and no longer is growing . it provides me with food yet killing algae and leaving that food in the water is a better process ... ohhhh i seee... NOT .. the bog promotes bacteria and micro organisums to absorb /eat these supplies.

While asphalt is the main product in roofing and it does leach oils SLOWLY and i mean very slowly , as does your driveway, highway, and parking lot. people have been drinking from rain barrels that they have collecting water from there roofs for 1000's of years
 
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Here’s an abstract from the article I mentioned, “Roofing Materials Assessment: Investigation of Five Metals in Runoff from Roofing Materials”

“Abstract​

To assess the contribution of five toxic metals from new roofing materials to stormwater, runoff was collected from 14 types of roofing materials and controls during 20 rain events and analyzed for metals. Many of the new roofing materials evaluated did not show elevated metals concentrations in the runoff. Runoff from several other roofing materials was significantly higher than the controls for arsenic, copper, and zinc. Notably, treated wood shakes released arsenic and copper, copper roofing released copper, PVC roofing released arsenic, and Zincalume® and EPDM roofing released zinc. For the runoff from some of the roofing materials, metals concentrations decreased significantly over an approximately one-year period of aging. Metals concentrations in runoff were demonstrated to depend on a number of factors, such as roofing materials, age of the materials, and climatic conditions. Thus, application of runoff concentrations from roofing materials to estimate basin-wide releases should be undertaken cautiously.”
 
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Here's a little history for anyone who would like to know. New york , Boston , LA, Chicago , and miami i believe were the cities used and poland springs desani and a couple designer bottled waters were put in a taste test. and guess who won..... New York CITY

Hard to believe when you realize the MILES AND MILES OF LEAD PIPE and lead solder. oh and if it is not in a lead pipe or lead lined it's in a copper pipe as is every home in america until what 15 years ago when petex started to make an impact. We all drank it for years in early development stages of life and do so up to this morning when we brushed our teeth.
 
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Hello and welcome!

How much is it going down, and how often are you having to fill it? If there is a leak, you really might want to locate that leak. Leaks tend to grow larger over time.

As to your question about using roof run-off….not something I am familiar with, but I know that others do. They can discuss the logistics.
Thanks for your help
 
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Welcome!

I use a 4" PVC pipe from my downspout to my upper pond. All is above ground since it is close and my ponds are on a slope. I used to put the pipe in place before rain and then remove it. I have since added and extra overflow to my first pond, a stock tank with a turtle, which then flows to my lower pond, in-ground liner pond. I designed the lower pond to have a natural overflow with liner over the top and down the slope and natural rock straining the overflow. I now leave the pipe in place 24/7 since the ponds can handle the overflow.

In your case, if wanting to control the flow; sounds like you would need some type of diverter valve on your downspout. I have seen something like that included with rain barrel kits; if you want something ready made.
Many thanks, appreciated
 
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I have 4 down spouts feeding my pond, which is downhill from our house. I put in a low area covered with rocks letting the water flow through them so fish don't get washed out.

A good rain the pond is really full and gets a good water turnover.
Many thanks for you advice
 
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Hi - I've just joined this forum and am really pleased to read about this.
We have a modest wildlife pond in our front garden (a 500 litre rigid liner). In the Summer, the water level drops by up to 20cms unless we top it up from the water mains. We are on a water meter, so this isn't a great idea.
About 7 metres from the pond we have a rainwater downspout from the main house roof, so I have ordered a water diverter that has a diverter tap, plus a 10m length of 25mm corrugated pipe from the usual Internet sites (total cost of ~£40). My plan is to temporarily connect up the pipe to the diverter when I know that rain is forecast and refill the pond in this way.
I'd be interested to know if anyone else has tried this and any other feedback on my proposed solution.
Many thanks, Howard
 
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I stopped using rainwater from my roof. It was feeding it into my cistern.

After a few months of refill the pond with water from it, I noticed that the fishes weren't doing well. They started to get white spots on their bodies(infection - a sign of stress). A couple of them die. I decided to have a look at my cistern bottom. There were a layer of what seem to be breakup paint and fine sand. My roof is painted tile. It is getting old and the paint started to breaking up. I cleaned out the cistern and change about a third of the water.

Since then, the fishes seem to have recovered. Should be safe with a good roof though.
 

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My one roof is asphalt, one roof is metal. Both feed the ponds for the past 10ish years without issues. I think it all depends on where you are paint no paint etc.

We have been fine using roof water.
 
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I just diverted my gutters away from my Koi pond. After 7 years of living with a green pond I decided to try using Nualgi pond cleaner. It worked really well. That was until we had a couple of days of rain. The pond turned green again. Retreated and it cleared up after a week. We just finished with two more days of rain here and the pond is staying crystal clear. I will refill with a garden hose from our well from now on.
 
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After 7 years of living with a green pond I decided to try using Nualgi pond cleaner.
What is Nualgi pond cleaner?

It sounds like algecide.
If so, you are living dangerously concerning the health of your fish.

One of the most common posts are people adding algecide resulting in a big fish die-off even though the label states that it is "fish safe".

There are safe and natural ways to combat algae.

As much as you may dislike algae, it is nature's fail safe in protecting your pond.
The presence of algae indicates that you have an imbalance. There are excess nutrients in the water. Nature adds algae which feeds on the excess nutrients.
By killing off the algae, you're only adding more nutrients (the dead algae). You're not addressing the root of the problem.
 
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