First ever pond - plant question


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Hi All,

My first post.

I have lots of experience with freshwater and marine aquariums and fancy having a go at my first pond. Thinking of a 1 meter length pre-formed and a small waterfall/filter box.

I was wondering if this would be a bad time to start a new pond though, in terms of what plants will be available this time of year. Are there any plants that I could grow during autumn / winter or is that a time where pond plants die off ?

I live in south wales so obviously gets quite cold, and looking at a spot which should get a few hours direct sunlight in the winter but not sure during the winter.

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Welcome to the forum!

It is never a bad time to start your pond, I would not put fish in until the spring so it has time to cycle etc. I started my bog late fall, bought what plants I could find and in the spring they took off.
 
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Welcome Dave! Agree with @addy1, start as soon as you can with hardy (no tropical) plants. Look for hardy water lilies. The only condition is making sure your pond does not freeze solid. Surface ice is fine but if the entire pond freezes completely your plants will most likely fail. How deep is your pond and how many gallons? Please feel free to ask questions about you future pond. We are here to help!
 
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Thanks both for the welcome. I was thinking about a small preformed pond just to start me off, as I have a small area by my decking which is flat - hopefully I'll get hooked then move onto a much larger one in the middle of the lawn later.

The ones that are 1 meter long all look to be 30cm deep and hold around 140 litres.
 

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If I were you I would do a small piece of liner. I had two preforms, both cracked over one of our winters. Hard to level, hard to keep level etc.
 
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I was wondering that, as they do appear very cheap at £30. I'm not sure about the edging with a liner, does it have to come up over the lawn and held down with stones or can it be cut flush with the grass level ?
 
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I agree, do liner and you will be much happier. You can form it however you like. If you do it flush w/the level of the land you will have issues w/runoff into your pond water. Dirt, chemicals anything on the land. Make a berm around it so it is higher up and then add anything you like around the area. The more natural looking the better. Take a look at ponds here and how they have added to the edges. Also make a step around the top edge so you can add rocks there to hide the liner at water level. I used rock and sprawling plants but you can do lots more different ideas seeing what others have done.
See the lower rocks are on the short step down in the water, than other rocks towards the back of them on top edge of pond on berm.

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Thanks all. Think I'm going for liner, but in a larger location further down the garden instead
 
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The site I am considering will have the pond mostly in direct sunlight for a few hours each day during the summer, but at the moment as the sun is lower in the sky it would be in shade all of the day from the shadow of the fence. Does this mean it's not a suitable site as it needs at least a few hours of direct sunlight all year round ?
 

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The site I am considering will have the pond mostly in direct sunlight for a few hours each day during the summer, but at the moment as the sun is lower in the sky it would be in shade all of the day from the shadow of the fence. Does this mean it's not a suitable site as it needs at least a few hours of direct sunlight all year round ?
Really depends on the plants you want to keep. Doesn’t mean you can’t keep any plants, just means you are limited to mostly shade loving plants.
 
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Really appreciate all the advice and I hear what you say about the liner, but due to shade issue the site I'm going to use now is quite small so going to go for a pre formed liner, blagdon mayfly 250. I've already dug up the wife's rose bushes and will dig out the main site tody.

I'm mainly interested in plants but will probably put some small fish in, and really want a waterfall so looking for some basic filtration. This looks very small and basic, but think it'll suit my needs - or are they a bit crap ? Thinking maybe they aren't that good because they so cheap ?

 
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Really appreciate all the advice and I hear what you say about the liner, but due to shade issue the site I'm going to use now is quite small so going to go for a pre formed liner, blagdon mayfly 250. I've already dug up the wife's rose bushes and will dig out the main site tody.

I'm mainly interested in plants but will probably put some small fish in, and really want a waterfall so looking for some basic filtration. This looks very small and basic, but think it'll suit my needs - or are they a bit crap ? Thinking maybe they aren't that good because they so cheap ?

it'll work; having some water movement/agitation will keep mosquitoes away. Go online and look for a few pics of pond plants, their characteristics and whatnot, and choose from those in your area that are hardy.
 
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it'll work; having some water movement/agitation will keep mosquitoes away. Go online and look for a few pics of pond plants, their characteristics and whatnot, and choose from those in your area that are hardy.
Thanks, I'll order one then. I've just bought the preformed liner, can't wait to get the digging sorted !
 
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digging stage is coming to an end now, but concerned about sharp stones causing punctures. The attached pic has lots of loose stones which I'll obviously clean out, but there's going to be others just under the surface. Do I need some extra protective layer ? I thought of sand but not sure if that'll eventually wash down as the soil gets wet. The liner I have is plastic and not fibreglass, but I think it's sturdier than some of the cheap bendy ones I've read review of, its a blagdon mayfly 250.

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digging stage is coming to an end now, but concerned about sharp stones causing punctures. The attached pic has lots of loose stones which I'll obviously clean out, but there's going to be others just under the surface. Do I need some extra protective layer ? I thought of sand but not sure if that'll eventually wash down as the soil gets wet. The liner I have is plastic and not fibreglass, but I think it's sturdier than some of the cheap bendy ones I've read review of, its a blagdon mayfly 250.

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if concerned, add a 4" layer of sand; that'll keep a nice cushion between the stone and liner. As an added plus, it'll be easier to level your preform. I know you already got it but most here use a liner for a reason. But, not to worry; LPS will arrive sooner or later and we'll have this discussion again! :cool:
 

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