First winter. Should I still do small water changes?

Discussion in 'Winterizing Your Pond' started by bagsmom, Nov 1, 2017.

  1. bagsmom

    bagsmom

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2014
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    794
    Hey all! This will be the first winter for my pond. I'm in the northern half of Georgia. We are pretty temperate most of the year (says the native midwesterner!) We will have some days below freezing, but they will be here and there and never long-lasting. I'm quite sure it's fine to leave the waterfall going all winter and I doubt the pond surface will ever freeze. The pond is heavily planted and has a lot of algae on the rocks. Any feeding I do at this stage of the game has been for fun.

    With all this in mind, is it good to continue doing mini water changes throughout the winter? Or not necessary with the cold water perhaps inhibiting the rotting of plant matter and such?

    What do you other southerners do?
     
    bagsmom, Nov 1, 2017
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. bagsmom

    sissy sissy

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011
    Messages:
    29,002
    Likes Received:
    12,575
    Location:
    Axton virginia
    I never do any water changes unless pond is low on water and fall and winter I would not do them at all .
     
    sissy, Nov 1, 2017
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. bagsmom

    Lisak1

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,149
    Likes Received:
    4,527
    Location:
    Northern IL
    Search for "water changes" on this site and you'll see there are varied opinions on whether you should do water changes at all. I don't think we need to start that conversation all over again here - but it's a good read!
     
    Lisak1, Nov 1, 2017
    #3
    bagsmom, Gemma and Meyer Jordan like this.
  4. bagsmom

    Angel

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2017
    Messages:
    365
    Likes Received:
    317
    Location:
    SNJ
    If possible turn of falls can cause ice dams from splashing. I also would not do a water change keep everything water content as is for fish. Algae and other wise. Also no water changes keeps the water temp current thus less stress and comfussion for the fish
     
    Angel, Nov 1, 2017
    #4
    bagsmom and Meyer Jordan like this.
  5. bagsmom

    audioenvy

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2016
    Messages:
    240
    Likes Received:
    441
    Location:
    Utah
    I personally am planning to still do water changes--but I admittedly have a Dedicated Koi Pond setup at this point rather than a garden pond. Last year when it was a garden pond I did not do any water changes.
     
    audioenvy, Nov 2, 2017
    #5
    bagsmom and Gemma like this.
  6. bagsmom

    CometKeith

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2010
    Messages:
    2,993
    Likes Received:
    2,175
    Location:
    Chicago Area
    I have never done a water change in the winter. i'm not sure why it would be necessary. If you keep water flowing that's all that is necessary as it will help prevent anaerobic decay of organic matter.
     
    CometKeith, Nov 2, 2017
    #6
    bagsmom, Gemma and CeeJayH like this.
  7. bagsmom

    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2010
    Messages:
    30,968
    Likes Received:
    15,207
    Location:
    Frederick, Maryland
    I don't do water changes in the winter, well don't do them in the summer either unless it rains real hard.

    Everything is turned off, a pond breather added.
     
    addy1, Nov 2, 2017
    #7
    bagsmom likes this.
  8. bagsmom

    Gordo33

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2015
    Messages:
    434
    Likes Received:
    483
    Location:
    Willow Grove,PA
    I leave my WF running thru the winter. The first two winters were really harsh and the WF and stream formed an ice dome. The water continued to flow down the stream and into the pond. I never had water redirected out of the pond.
    I have never performed water changes for the pond . Just op off when needed.
     
    Gordo33, Nov 2, 2017
    #8
    teeemkay, bagsmom and Meyer Jordan like this.
  9. bagsmom

    bagsmom

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2014
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    794
    Thanks everyone. This is what I was thinking, but wanted to make sure!
     
    bagsmom, Nov 2, 2017
    #9
  10. bagsmom

    waynefrcan 14 years ponding and hopefully 14 more!

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Canada
    Check the water chem and the amount of decay first before you decide to not do a change.
     
    waynefrcan, Nov 3, 2017
    #10
    MitchM and bagsmom like this.
  11. bagsmom

    slick

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    137
    Location:
    Doncaster south Yorkshire
    Hi I keep koi and I do water changes every week along with my filter clean outs but as winter comes the koi feed less so the filters don t need a weekly clean out so I tend not to carry out water changes when the pond temp drops below 10 degrees c
     
    slick, Nov 3, 2017
    #11
    Gemma, waynefrcan and bagsmom like this.
  12. bagsmom

    waynefrcan 14 years ponding and hopefully 14 more!

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Canada
    Well it's like this, every pond is different and every pond keeper does things different. I would say you would need super filtration, no bottom rocks, cleaned of debris, light fish load and not so harsh winters, then maybe not do a water change.
     
    waynefrcan, Nov 3, 2017
    #12
  13. bagsmom

    waynefrcan 14 years ponding and hopefully 14 more!

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Canada
    When I wintered outside the ammonia levels shot up. I think cause was I have bottom rocks and too much decay to go the whole winter. I did a water change before winter and one mid winter to help solve the problem.
     
    waynefrcan, Nov 3, 2017
    #13
  14. bagsmom

    Lisak1

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,149
    Likes Received:
    4,527
    Location:
    Northern IL
    Welcome back @waynefrcan !

    You know I'm going to counter your "lose your rocky bottom" advice every time... I love my rocked pond! And my winter might not be quite as cold as yours, but it's definitely not balmy here. Never had a problem overwintering my fish without ever worrying about a water change.

    As you said... every pond is different!
     
    Lisak1, Nov 3, 2017
    #14
    waynefrcan likes this.
  15. bagsmom

    waynefrcan 14 years ponding and hopefully 14 more!

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Canada
    Thanks, I like my rock bottom, it's just not the best for keeping excellent water quality. I do a yearly pond cleanout and winter the fish inside the garage now. Our winters are just too cold for koi.

    I come on here every winter and spring :)
     
    waynefrcan, Nov 4, 2017
    #15
    MitchM and Gemma like this.
  16. bagsmom

    waynefrcan 14 years ponding and hopefully 14 more!

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Canada
    Your pond looks great but...I can almost bet the farm that you have a layer of thick black stinky goo under and around those big rocks lol
     
    waynefrcan, Nov 4, 2017
    #16
  17. bagsmom

    slick

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    137
    Location:
    Doncaster south Yorkshire
    I run 4inch bottom drain 40inch diameter vortex a ultra seive and bead filter I go through 200gallons when I do my filter clean outs every week but I don't remove any more I refill the pond via a 4 stage water purifier
     
    slick, Nov 4, 2017
    #17
  18. bagsmom

    Lisak1

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2013
    Messages:
    4,149
    Likes Received:
    4,527
    Location:
    Northern IL
    Get your deed ready, because no I don't.

    And someone should alert our other Canadian members that it's too cold to keep those fish outside... they may not be aware.
     
    Lisak1, Nov 4, 2017
    #18
  19. bagsmom

    slick

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2015
    Messages:
    302
    Likes Received:
    137
    Location:
    Doncaster south Yorkshire
    I don't understand I don't have a farm or thick sticky too??
     
    slick, Nov 4, 2017
    #19
    Meyer Jordan likes this.
  20. bagsmom

    waynefrcan 14 years ponding and hopefully 14 more!

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2012
    Messages:
    1,113
    Likes Received:
    302
    Location:
    Canada
    Haha it's there trust me. No water changes and no cleanout over time the algae, waste and decay will turn stinky and black. IS your entire pond rocked? Do you use a pond vac during the non winter period?
     
    waynefrcan, Nov 5, 2017
    #20
    1. Advertisements

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.
Similar Threads
  1. koiguy1969

    first winter still

    koiguy1969, Feb 4, 2009, in forum: Garden Pond Photography
    Replies:
    2
    Views:
    878
    c2c7390
    Feb 4, 2009
  2. gmb

    winter water changes

    gmb, Nov 25, 2008, in forum: Pond Archive
    Replies:
    1
    Views:
    944
    ~ jan
    Nov 26, 2008
  3. Mrshkoiluver

    Water changes in winter!

    Mrshkoiluver, Nov 9, 2009, in forum: Garden Pond Talk
    Replies:
    40
    Views:
    4,246
    CliffandJoann
    Nov 24, 2009
  4. Steve knight
    Replies:
    6
    Views:
    2,825
    slick
    Mar 22, 2015
  5. Steve knight

    free water changes for the rest of the winter.

    Steve knight, Oct 12, 2010, in forum: Garden Pond Talk
    Replies:
    10
    Views:
    1,319
    Steve knight
    Oct 13, 2010
  6. D&RW

    water changes in winter

    D&RW, Jan 5, 2012, in forum: Water Chemistry
    Replies:
    11
    Views:
    1,391
    Jareety
    Mar 26, 2012
  7. bettasngoldfish

    water changes during winter months?

    bettasngoldfish, Oct 15, 2013, in forum: Winterizing Your Pond
    Replies:
    20
    Views:
    1,241
    waynefrcan
    Oct 17, 2013
  8. urglik

    First Winter, First Big Snow.

    urglik, Dec 20, 2016, in forum: Garden Pond Photography
    Replies:
    6
    Views:
    349
    callingcolleen1
    Dec 21, 2016
Loading...