Fungus on my koi

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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    I was reading another topic on another koi forum where this lady did all the things, salt baths, all kinds of meds, scraped the gunk off. What she ended up with was a fish that had no scales left with raw flesh and yes it died.
     
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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    I have yet to find a decent photo of confirmed Sap!
     
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    I would say no. Very few meds have prophylactic abilities. All you would be doing is subjecting the fish to undue stress and wasting money. The best prevention is to maintain the basic health of your fish through proper water quality and minimal exposure to stress.
    Fungi, fungi-like organisms, parasites, viruses and infectious bacteria are ubiquitous in all aquatic venues. It is next to impossible to permanently eradicate them. Fish have built-in defenses to all of these with immune systems and slime coats. Good fish health through proper husbandry will insure that these two defenses remain strong.
     
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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    That is what I'm finding as well, thanks. And these chem's kill the good bacteria.
     
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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    One update, some of these meds are legal and are sold here, they just can't be used for any other purpose then pet fish. In one way that's crazy because they contain cancer causing agents and guess where the water goes after treatment or water changes, public water systems.
     
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    I have to say I'm totally in agreement with @Meyer Jordan on this issue all fish be they coldwater, tropical, or marine have built in defences such as their immune systems and stress coats .
    As meyer correctly states Fungi-like organizim's , parasites viruses are also ubiquitous in all aquatic venues .
    As such it is next to impossible to irradicate them and it is only through good husbandry QT etc, that our fish remain healthy and illness is kept at bay break this chain and this is how we get problems ..
    One chink in its amour and problems will occur and it is down to us to be on our guard against this happening
    It is knowing what sysptoms to look out for and when discovered knowing how to treat them how to treat them in a timely manner.

    Dave
     
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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    Update, all other fish are doing well in the new garage pond with no further signs of disease.
     
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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    I'm wondering if I should start salt again? I seem to recall you use salt all the time Dave.
     
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    Not me my friend its all done by observing our koi, their water quality and QT proceedures , a scrape in the spring to check for parasites .
    Use feeding routines whilst viewing your koi close up you wont need salt besides using salt this time of year can bring your ponds temperature down even more

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    waynefrcan 13 years ponding and hopefully 13 more!

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    I brought them inside the garage for the winter.
     
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    I gave you the best way of attacking fungus via @Andy41 case a while back Wayne the outcome was a successful one Andy's problem was caused by switching off his filtration at night so as not to upset his neighbours [thats if my memory serves me right], you said you brought your koi indoors Question did you have trouble netting the koi in question?
    Also when transfering them across did you exactly match temperatures of the water, plu are the indoor filters mature enough ?
    There are lots of ways this infection could have come about yo'll have to go through everything you did to come up with the answer .
    Then dont make it again


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