Goldfish with fish pox???

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    Hi all.
    Today my fish spawn Yey!

    But then the boy shubby that I hoped to be a daddy just lay on the bottom and swim very slowly. I got a closer look of him and his scales are looking a little weird.

    It's bit poking out. But it's like it's flaking and one tht looking like the goldfish egg was attach to his body.

    I read the book the interpret manual of fish health but it wasn't really clear to me. It looks like a fish pox but also a bout if the slime coating too. Well, I have no clue. He is just not acting very active even though the water is 70 degree.

    Ammonia 0
    Nitrate 0
    PH 8.2 (unusually high for my normal 7.6)

    Here are pictures.
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    Other than being slow and inactive he's eating and seems ok otherwise.

    I put him in a small tub by himself with fresh water and an airstone and he seems to be more active now swimming around.

    Do you think this is a case of fish pox or something more serious?

    Thanks
    Anya.
     
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    Anya I cant see anything I'm afraid you have to much reflection going on in the Photo all I can see is a normal looking shubinkin at the moment and when I did think I saw something it was your finger poking out under the body of the fish I saw . :)
    When you say scales lifting do you mean like with dropsy or just looking weird?
    It could well be he's a tad underweight weve just come through winter remember :)

    Dave
     
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    Hi Dave,
    I think the second picture showed best. If you look near his front fin (the one that look clams to his body) along his body there is a little clear/whitish thing flaking out. It's like when you scrape yourself and the skin kinda peel off.

    It's on his back a little and on his side closer to his face.

    Well, I went down to look at him and his body looks normal now :) wondering what it was! It looked like him shedding his skin like a snake and now it's gone.

    He ate and swim fine (though slowly) He didn't like the tube worm or the brine shrimp though, seems to prefer just a normal flake food.
     
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    Little bit of white reflecting off his pectoral fin ?
    It may well be a little bit of excess mucus caused by your high Ph perhaps but he looks otherwise to be in rude health if you ca get any better photos it would be of a far better help to see if there is anything amiss.:)

    Dave (y)
     
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    If you click on the pic it gets bigger like my pics get bigger when you click on them .I can see it a little could he have injured himself in the spawning frenzy .Not sure you can click on pics like that .Makes them full screen
     
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    I was going to ask if high PH can cause something like that. It could very well be excess mucus since when I was holding him I didnt feel anything poking out or missing any scale. There is no sign of that this morning (the pH from my tap water is about 7.4-7.6 and that's what I used for holding him (dechlorine)) so it sounds like the pH might be the cause since that's the only thing different from my pond water??

    On Saturday he was moving fine but Sunday he was just idle most of the time while other fish were chasing the girl. pond temp 70F.

    Is there a way to reduce the PH other than do a water change?
     
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    After enlarging the second photo I can see the area you are talking about. It does look like excess slime coat coming off.

    As mentioned it can be from the high ph or the spawning. I would not mess with the ph. Just do water changes as normal.

    Personally I would just keep an eye on him.
     
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    I will deffinately keep an eye on him. I'm going to put him back in the pond tonight and see if he gets it again, if so i'll have to try to reduce the pH some how (most likely water change). I dont know how it got so high (8.2) my normal range is 7.6.
     
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    Am I missing something? 8.2 is not a high pH for goldfish.
     
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    Hi Shakaho,
    May be it's high becasue my normal rage was 7.6? it's been around that number all year last year and this year it just went up.
     
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    Goldfish adapt pretty well to a wide range of ph but a sudden change can cause issues.

    I'm certainly no expert but from what I can see in the photo I don't think it's a major problem.
     
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    yeh goldies are good with most ph and koi are the fussy ones about ph
     
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    I put the fish back to the pond last night and this morning he's doing fine, swiming with the others so all in all he might just be tired from the spawning and had excess mucus from what ever reason.

    I'm glad he's better now :)
     
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    Worn out way to go champ :lol: wheb do we hear the splashes of little tiny fins (y)

    Dave:)
     
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    lol Dave, he was worn out but the girl was still a lot more active than him being chased by him and 3 more goldies ;)
     
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