Greetings fellow pond people

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    Just a note to say hi. I'm building my new pond as we speak. hope to start filling by this weekend. I will post more about it later and look forward to learning anything and everything possible from you seasoned pond people.
     
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    We are looking forward to seeing pictures of your pond. Constructive criticism now may save you from problems later.

    Good luck and welcome to the Forum!;)
     
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    Hi DrDave. Here are a couple of pic's of my progress so far. Pond size is 12'x5'x33". Above ground with Laguna pressure flo 3200 filter with intergrated UV-c unit and a Laguna max flo 2000 pump. 2x4 construction bolted to my excisting concrete slab mostly under my patio cover. doulble plated crossover at the corners top and bottom. 3/4" ply on the inside and 1/2" shear on the outside. Planning on a stacked stone exterior. Installed a waterfall tank yesterday and plan on installing the liner today to test the whole system. View attachment 39

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    Great start. What are you going to use to seal it? Liner, fiberglass? Also, with this much water pressure, are you sure the sides will hold up? I didn't see a lot of structure along the length.
     
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    20x15 goodyear liner. with double plated crossover framing top and bottom, with shear on both sides its solid as a rock. I've been a general contractor forever so I understand loads and stress probably better than your average joe. I'm more concerned with the plumbing set up. Having never plumbed for a koi pond before I'm hoping I didn't go to large on my intake and output lines. I will find out today.
     
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    Sounds like you have it covered. Where did you get your liner? I hear these can be had through roofing contractors who have remnants.

    As for plumbing, I can offer you this, I never glue my pipes until I have tested everything. Then I only glue ones that are pressurized or buried.

    Do you have your Koi already?
     
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    ok hockeyref88 i grew up playing hockey,i still tell my wife i was good at it,played all winter long ......30 years ago.......i am the plumber,i didnt see your inlet & outlet ,but you cant go to big ,..........stucture , i built my raised pond with blocks and rebar than lined with rock ,i was thinking about my pond freezing and exspaning, i love the raised pond the fish are at your finger tips,,,,have raised pond in the gallery ,,your prodject looks good, whats your filter plan ?? what state are you in ?????
     
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    Dr. Dave I got the liner from goodyear. The guy at my local fish store (LFS) has it on in his set up at the store and it is very durable stuff.....................Dr Case I started playing hockey when I was 30 Though its been my favorite sport forever. I played for 10 years, just local advanced adult leagues, nothing pro. 8 years ago I became certified referee for both ice and roller hockey and started refereeing at various local rinks. The city of Long Beach where I live has had me under contract for the mens advanced roller hockey league for the last 7 years. I actually took this season off because I had very important stuff to do like build a koi pond. I don't ref ice any more because I'm way to busy with my contracting business. So there you have it........................As for the pond, I got the liner installed and the plumbing seems to be working just the way I pictured it. Waterfall tank works real well it seems and NO LEAKS anywhere!!!:icon_smile: I'm going to put some fish in tomorrow and start cycling. Here's a couple of pic's Let me know what you guy's think. I have not really decided what I'm doing on the outside of the pond yet. Maybe stacked stone or stucco.. Any suggestions??? View attachment 43

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    Did you cut and rebond the liner in the corners to avoid the wrinkles? It looks pretty smooth.
     
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    Yeah I thats exactly what I did. The liner is only about 1/16 of an inch thick. Pretty easy to manipulate. Basically like rapping a present from the inside.
     
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    What was the adhesive that you used to bond it? I used a PL type to bond mine to rocks at my waterfall, not sure which one.
     
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    I misunderstood you. I just folded it back on itself real tight in the corners on each end. Made sure to toe it in real good at the corners so no stess on the liner...Did I make a mistake? I just did it like the guy at my LFS told me too. Thats how his is.
     
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    Well they actually sell a bonding agent that allows you to cut and fit, then bond your liner into whatever shape you want. No folds when done this way. I was uncertain about the adhesives they were selling so I didn't do it. My next pond which will be for spawning and raising the young will be similar to yours. That is why I asked.
     
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    Kool. I think its OK. Most of the pond is under my patio cover. The remainder well be covered by a latticed patio cover I'm going to build. My friend gets his prize koi picked of by blue herons all the time and I don't want to have to lose any fish to kritters. I was told the 3 foot depth and keeping it covered works pretty well. Is your pond out in the open??
     
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    We have the same problem. I have alarms, nets and weapons.
     
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    LOL............ I can only imagine what weapons your talking about. I know what he use's.
     
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    the pond looks good,, hockeyref...i can almost follow the pipes to the filter.. the lines look 2 " thats a good size to work with,,i just dry stacked my rocks around my blocks,,my ponds do sit out in the open we get some of the small green herons in town nesting it dosent take much to make them not come back............
     
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    pipes are actually 1 1/2 inch schedule 80. You said you have alrams?? what do you mean??
     
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    Hey I looked at your profile........................No Pictures of your ponds???? or am I missing something??
     
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    Who are you talking to? We are pretty good, but not psychic. I think you were talking to me.

    My pond is in the Gallery "Pond and Bridge".

    I have 4 infra red alarms.
    One sounds off in the house letting me know there is an intruder.
    One makes "Harold" the Owl's eyes light up and he hoots.
    One turns on a flood lamp that is Solar powered
    and One starts a 110 decible siren and strobe light.
     
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