Hearty Bog Plants in NW Ohio (zone 6)


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Make sure we get a liner loaded shot! and installing and installed..................
My little tractor was no match for this big liner! We had to resort to dragging the pallet.

With the end lifted up, it lifted the front wheels off the ground. I had to steer using the left and right brakes like a tank!

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this is going to be my spill way. I need to do the trench for the plumbing feed lines then hopefully my muscle will be here for the liner wrestling!
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Oh my! That's some liner!
Any idea what it weighs?
If that machine couldn't handle it...
How are you gonna do it? An army of very strong friends I'm guessing. Even with them...I don't know...that thing is huge!
 
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Oh my! That's some liner!
Any idea what it weighs?
If that machine couldn't handle it...
How are you gonna do it? An army of very strong friends I'm guessing. Even with them...I don't know...that thing is huge!
Once the liner is in the hole I can unroll it and air cushion move it like we do the wrestling mats.

I think it’s 600lbs. The fact that it’s so unwieldy is the reason it’s so hard to handle. Two of us can lift and carry it, probably. But my muscle is going to be late. I put the gravel load on hold until I get this in the hole.
 
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@rjrivero I was going to ask the same, which design are you planning to put in for the bog?
And how deep are you planning for the gravel?
That's a huge pond and bog, what size pump will you be using?
The plumbing will be a big 4” header pipe with 2” radials coming off of it. The 4” header will be about 4” below the floor of the bog (which will be right at 12” deep.).

The main reasons are twofold. The 4” header will slow intake flow rate. It is recessed so Sediment will find it’s way into this header when backflushing the system. I’ll be using a transfer/trash pump to do this. I’ll have to see if the concept is valid when I clean all the stone after installation into the bog. I will place all the stone, fill the bog and use my transfer pump to wash all the stone recirculating a majority of the pump output and spraying it onto the stone while diverting a smaller volume of output water until clear, hopefully. :unsure:

I’m going to be targeting a flow of 10,000 gph via a pair of 2” flexible pvc tubes from a pair of 5000 gph pumps in opposite corners of the pond. I still won’t turn over the volume of the pond but every 6 days. Kinda slow I know but slow and steady wins the race? Can it really hurt? I got nothing now! ‍:LOL:

All the radials are going to be connected to equalize flow through the whole system. I have 17 of each 10 foot 2” pipes, and 60 foot of 4” pipe along with a bunch of connectors and clean outs. I’ll show a picture of it when it’s done!

So all in all, this is one big experiment for me. Information I’ve complied from a bunch of different sources with my own twists along the way. I may have bitten off more than I can chew, but I’ll never admit it. If all of a sudden I go radio silent I’m probably stuck under this liner. If that’s the case, leave my body there and finish this bog!
 
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I still won’t turn over the volume of the pond but every 6 days.
Mine turns over once about every 2-3 hours. And my pond still stays perfect. The water going into the hot tub bog does not turn over that pond except every 2-3 weeks the flow is so low. But it still works. And I have a lot of plants in that pond.

This is the hot tub pond. Two of the fan tails.

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Mine turns over once about every 2-3 hours. And my pond still stays perfect. The water going into the hot tub bog does not turn over that pond except every 2-3 weeks the flow is so low. But it still works. And I have a lot of plants in that pond.

This is the hot tub pond. Two of the fan tails.

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Thanks for keeping my hope alive!
 
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Can anyone identify this plant? Wondering if it would survive in a bog.
 
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Looks like Blue Fescue grass and it likes dry soil. Or could be a Tussock grass which I don't think will like it in a pond either but heck you could try one and see what happens and then let us know.
 
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wow what a pond
Thank you! These ponds are very popular in rural NW Ohio. Apparently the ground water is high in sulfur. Digging a large pond collects winter runoff and becomes the water source for the home.

We aren’t “allowed” to use point wells for home use. However the water from a typical point here is crystal clear and only about 20 foot deep. My next project will be to drive a pair of points and keep a top off on this pond.
 

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Never heard of a point well.

Our well is really deep, no clue how deep but our neighbors say 100's of feet.

Per the bog, I have just stuck things in some grow some don't. When I first planted it, I had nicely spaced plants all sorts of different plants, now it is a jungle with whatever grows grows, easy to care for. I just yank plants now and then to have some control.

I have no desire for a nicely planted pretty bog. But all the plants do bloom and look quite pretty.
 
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Wish I had a backhoe for my tractor. I found that I can lift more with the bucket than I can with the 3 point hitch. I drilled a hole in the front center of the bucket and use a shackel and sling to lift. If it gets to heavy lifting I add the mower deck to counter weight and keep the wheels down. I roll the bucket down close in and lift with the main arms, when I am maxed out for power I can then roll the bucket up to get more lift power. Have to be VERY careful not to roll the tractor and stay off the side hills. Amazing what the little 20hp tractor will lift.
 

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I have a back hoe, small bucket, and a front bucket. I have tipped it a few times, scares the poo out of me. So far have never flipped it.
I never do work like that on the side hills we have. Only go straight up or straight down...............Moved the tractor a lot when I was digging the stream on the hill.
 
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Never heard of a point well.

Our well is really deep, no clue how deep but our neighbors say 100's of feet.

Per the bog, I have just stuck things in some grow some don't. When I first planted it, I had nicely spaced plants all sorts of different plants, now it is a jungle with whatever grows grows, easy to care for. I just yank plants now and then to have some control.

I have no desire for a nicely planted pretty bog. But all the plants do bloom and look quite pretty.
I like your approach! I have ferns and hostas out of my ears, so I’ll drop them in there and see how it goes. There is a pond store here and I’ll see what they have left this late in the season. It’ll be economy plants for the remainder of this season as I’m over budget already on the construction! Rofl.
 

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