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The liner arrived today, 40 x 50 ft and 590 lbs. I have a crew coming in the morning to get the liner in and I am paying them by the hour so I need to figure this out in advance. It looks like it was folded and rolled, and the long side is on the roll. Access into the pond is on the long side of the pond. If I unfold and roll it into the pond from the long side, it will be in the pond the wrong way. The seller's only suggestion is to unroll it and then once it is in the pond, turn it around, or unroll it completely next to the pond and then drag it in. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
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I'd love to help but this sounds like a geometry question! How many people do you have coming?
 
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Five crew, two friends and myself.
 
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Then I could see unrolling it beside the pond and folding it in half, laying it folded half in the pond and then unfolding it to the other side, if that makes sense.
 
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I would unroll it on the ground and pull it over/into the pond. If you have to lift it out of the pond once it's partially in then it's going to be very heavy. Be sure that if it has any markings on it that you put them on the bottom so that they don't show.
 
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My liner was 45 x 50 and myself and 2 neighbors unrolled it beside the pond and unfolded it towards the pond and pulled it over and into the pond and none of us are young pups. One thing that helped, was prior to that, I unrolled the liner in the front yard and re-folded and rolled it so I knew what direction all the folds were going be once it was unrolled because I didn't have that much room beside the pond.
 
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Thanks for the ideas, guys. I decided that the best thing to do was remove the giant pile of rocks I had at one end. I had thought of refolding the liner beside the pond but I would have ended up paying a lot more for installation. I hated to move those rocks. I moved them once, to the end, then again, to the far side, then I will have to move them again! I worked until it was dark but managed to make a path wide enough for the fork lift to get through. They had the liner in the pond really quickly!
Now, another question:
How do I get the talc powder out of the pond? Everything I have read says rinse the liner, but where is it going to go? To the bottom of the pond.
 

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You rinse it before you put it in the pond like on the grass when it's flat. Now it's too late so you could suck it out w/a pump while you spray water all over it.
 
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I don't think so...it's too big. It's not something I could do by myself and it cost me $300 to have a crew install it. I paid by the hour. It would have been another $300 to have them unroll and unfold, hose it down, then refold and reroll. I'll pump it but it settles at the bottom. Perhaps if I keep stirring it up as it's draining.
 
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All I am going to have is a skimmer and small waterfall filter. Will that do it? The powder seems so fine...
 
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What type of filtering materials are in your filter? That could make a difference. Quilt batting can catch a whole lot of stuff in the water.
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Thanks Barb. The filter isn't set up yet. If quilt batting might work, I can try aquarium filter floss. I have bags full of it. I don't know if the filter is going to get it up off the bottom though. I guess I'll see!
 
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Yep your filter would almost have to be used hooked to a tube and suck up the stuff if it does not float. If it floats the filter will get it w/circulation. I would think it would float tho as powder is so fine and might even dissolve.
 
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How about if, after the filter is up and running, you stir up the bottom a couple times a day? Get the powder up and into the water where it can be filtered out before it all sinks. Might take a few days of stirring but I think it should work.
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Like a pond vacuum, J.W? That might do it! I'll have to keep an eye open on Craigslist. :( Stirring it up might work, but the pond is so big and the filtration so small that it will take a while. It might be what I'll have to do, though.
 
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Well if you don't want to spend money just do what this guy did using a garden hose. You could hook it up to a pond pump and then if you wanted to you could run the dirty water from the hose back into the pond running it over quilt batting in a pot on the edge of your pond. You could attach a stiffer piece of pvc pole to the garden hose, make it long so you don't have to get into the pond.
 
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Well if you don't want to spend money just do what this guy did using a garden hose. You could hook it up to a pond pump and then if you wanted to you could run the dirty water from the hose back into the pond running it over quilt batting in a pot on the edge of your pond. You could attach a stiffer piece of pvc pole to the garden hose, make it long so you don't have to get into the pond.
Great idea, J.W! The hose fits fairly snugly over the pump, although I will need to use some electrical tape. I have a ten foot pole I can use, but I may still have to go in.
 
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