hornwort and anachris


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Does anyone have any suggestions on how to add these to the pond? Is there anything to worry about with them creating a mess in the pond if they begin to fall apart? (remember them being messy a little bit in an old aquarium)
 
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Whenever I put the Anacharis in my pond my fish eat it up so fast that it does not have time to make a mess. Now I have some in a floating plant ring so I can dole it out to them little by little. I also have some in a bathtub pond w/ no fish in it to see if it will grow more w/o pigs in there that chomp it all up.

It grows around here in the wild and I notice it is growing w/ it's roots in the mud there. My hubby has gone and pulled a bunch of it up for me now and then. I have heard it will grown in pots or just grown freely in ponds by just throwing it in there. Some have put it in netted bags to keep it more contained also.
 
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I put them in my pond last month......my intakes keep sucking them up and slowing the waterfalls. I keep throwing them in a plant ring as I pull them out of the intakes. I probably won't buy them again.
 

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Baeya you could put them in a netted bag and tie them off somewhere away from your intakes. Your fish are gonna be mad at you for not having them in there anymore cuz they love to nibble on them
 

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I used to buy anacharis every year and a few years ago I picked up some hornwart from a local lake and it has done ok, nothing stellar. The fish do eat up the anacharis and it all disappeared withing a month, so I no longer purchase this. The hornwart survives the winters here but the anacharis dies off. Have not noticed either one being messy, you do need to put lead weights or anchor them down somehow or they will get sucked up into your skimmer.
 

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My hornwart is blooming really nice, the lilies are still blooming same with the hyacinths.
 
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I think I've had some Hornwort before............maybe? Not sure but I think it grows around here or east of the mountains here. Did not know that it bloomed.
 

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thanks everyone, I can get the hornwart here at Petsmart, but wanted to make sure it wouldn't be an issue before putting it in. They used to sell Anacharis here but the girl said she thought it was illegal now, meaning that a bunch of people must have dumped it in local waters so I will have to look for it :) as I don't believe it is native to this area.
 

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Forget what i said.............geez brain block I have water hawthorn, not hornwart......................geez My water hawthorn is blooming great. Used to have hornwart in my aquarium tanks but not in the pond. The fish inhale the anacharis, so gave up on it. Unless I do like jw will keep from the fish, ie put in one of my small ponds and just pieces into the pond with fish as a snack
 

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I've tried both, Hornwart for me seems to do better in the still water tubs, anachris, well after about two or three weeks all I'm left with are stems that end up in the skimmer. Smaller pond with the small koi it does ok but with the bigger guys, FOOD FIGHT!
 
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Hornwort leaves contain a lot of calcium, making them harder and less palatable to fish than anacharis. John
 

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Thanks Tmann,
That will work since they were out of it at the store anyway. Do you guys weight it down (and if so how without it coming loose or breaking the stems?) or just let it float around?

Will have to check a specialized store for anacharis since the pet chain didn't carry it anymore.

JW, you only have goldies, right? did you buy the floating basket or did you find one in the DIY section on here?

Also does anyone have a popular website to order Hardy Water Lily tubors from? Think it would be easier to grow them this way than trying from seeds. I saw the thread on here where someone said how to do it, but don't think I would be starting them inside, so the 6 month time table counts me out from doing it that way (from this link here: http://www.water-gardens-information.com/start-water-lily-seeds.html )

Thanks again everyone!

Nathan
 

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if you wait till spring when I clean mine up, I can send you some tubers. Got a bunch. Unless you want certain colors, mine have all been given to me, and doing great. You have to remind me lol, that is a little bit of time from now.
 

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Herz I made a floating ring out of the black tubing from Lowes or H-Depot and attached screen under it. Made it pretty deep so the Anacharis can float downward away from ice if needed. Next time I would use the bigger squared screen or plastic stuff so water flow would be better. It gunks up a lot now and stuff can't get through..........well baby fry when real tiny get in there and stay. Then I have to get them outta there cuz they get too fat and can't get out and i don't think it's healthy for them to stay in there w/o the water flow. Oh and yes I just have goldfish.
 

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Herz when I bought the anacharis several years ago I purchased these lead weights that wrap around a few bunches and then I just drop them in the pond and they sink nicely to the bottom. Some of my Hornwart has grown roots in the bottom by my lilies. In late spring I go kayaking on this lake and fish a bunch of hornwart out to put in my pond. I use the old lead weights that get sucked out of the bottom of the pond by my vac in the fall and spring and reuse them. I have noticed that my hornwart dies off a bit when the lilies start taking over the pond, I think this is due to lack of light.
 
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Addy,
Thanks! I think I will take you up on that, but will have to remember myself!

JW
Thanks for the info, now I know mine would eat it too then.

Tmann,
Was wondering if fishing weights and fishing line somehow could do it without cutting it. Anytime I used those flat weights to put it in my aquarium, the bunches would always come loose and float everywhere. Will have to try it again.

Thanks,
Nathan
 

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Herz in another thread we were discussing this same issue with JW and I had the idea to try and use a stainless washer. If you get a big enough washer where the inside diameter is large enough to slide a few bunches of the anacharis or hornwart and slide it up halfway on the plant you may not need to tie it with anything. If you alternate the way you put in the hornwart or anachris into the washer you will have growth from both ends if that makes sense. But if you do have to tie it either use a thick enough fishing line so it does not cut into the plant when you tie it on to the washer. Could probably use a fishing weight we were just trying to come up with other ideas instead of having those lead weights in the bottom of your pond. I don't think they would hurt anything.
 

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Lead is toxic to fish if enough of it dissolves into the water. You could plant anacharis in a pot with gravel to hold it down
 
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Tmann,
Thanks, the washer in the middle (and I see what you mean by alternating the bunches as you put them in the washer) is a good idea. Should give it enough weight to hold it below the surface.

Minnowman,
have you tried this? if so how far down in the gravel did you bury the anacharis so it didn't float out of the pot?
 

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