I want to do a 55 gallon drum skippy type filter


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I plan on putting the barrel about 60 feet away from the pond, I will use 1 1/2 pvc in and 2" out. I want to put the barrel behind a wooden fence type enclosure where my a/c and pool pump is located. I was wondering if there is any issues with a run this long.
 
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well, there will be 9' of head hiegth to the pumps workload right off the bat. so take that into account when purchasing your pump. 10' of horizontal pipe equals 1' of vertical, plus the 3' of barrel hiegth. thats 60' away and the barrel sitting on the ground plus any other variables.
 

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My filters sit behind a fence next to one end my pond
But return on the other end 40' away
Each filter i run is independent of each other because the 2" gravity outlet can only handle 450 to 500 gph at that distance going down and back up
If you ran a 3" pipe return you could go more like 1300 gph
You could use 4"sdr 35 sewer pipe if you want to return a large volume of water close to3000 gph


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i looked at your profile and see that your pond is 1000 gals and concrete.. any chance youve got a bottom drain and you can access its plumbing under ground? if so you can extend that plumbing to the point where your filter will sit. locate your pump next to the filter.as long as you can keep your piping below the waterline in your pond.. external pump or submersable, the submersable will need a pump basin to set in..but this will eliminate alot of head heigth. your in Vegas so the freeze - thaw cycle isnt a real concern for you but the deeper you bury the better.
 
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i looked at your profile and see that your pond is 1000 gals and concrete.. am i correct in assuming youve got a bottom drain and you can access its plumbing under ground? if so you can extend that plumbing to the point where your filter will sit. locate your pump next to the filter.as long as you can keep your piping below the waterline in your pond.. external pump or submersable, the submersable will need a pump basin to set in..but this will eliminate alot of head heigth.

No that isn't the case, I don't have a bottom drain, boy I wish I did. This pond is kidney shaped and was at my house when I moved in but it was filled in with dirt. I got it up and running last year. Everything is going well but I have a pretty big bio load i'm dealing with and it would be nice to have a filter that doesn't require that much attention.
Currently I'm running two pumps and filters, I have a laguna canister type and a pondmaster waterfall with the large filter pad inside. Because of the rounded edges of the pond I couldn't bury the waterfall like it was designed to be installled. The pondmaster pump has one of those prefilter sponges on it and I have to wring it out at least every third day. I'd like to get away from that chore, kinda hard go away for a few days.
 
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o.k then why dont you try a stock tank skippy filter, they are lower profile and can easily be stoned around as a waterfall. a 70 gal like i use should easily keep your fish happy and healthy. . they only set 2' high! check out my waterfall pix in the gallery
 
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A couple pics of my pond
 

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o.k then why dont you try a stock tank skippy filter, they are lower profile and can easily be stoned around as a waterfall. a 70 gal like i use should easily keep your fish happy and healthy. . they only set 2' high! check out my waterfall pix in the gallery
I'm hurting for space around my pond, it's surrounded by my deck, I ran the pvc under the deck to where I want to put a filter out of sight.
 
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o.k then why dont you try a stock tank skippy filter, they are lower profile and can easily be stoned around as a waterfall. a 70 gal like i use should easily keep your fish happy and healthy. . they only set 2' high! check out my waterfall pix in the gallery
I was thinking about doing that at first but didnt think I had the room by the pond. I tried to look at your waterfall pix but couldn't find it, i'm new here and don't really know my way around, I did see a youtube video on putting a waterfall box together
 
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heres one with the top stone removed to show the waterfall weir, look at the hiacynths floating in the top of filter, with the rock on.. the filter is virtually invisable!!
 

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heres one with the top stone removed to show the waterfall weir, look at the hiacynths floating in the top of filter, with the rock on.. the filter is virtually invisable!!

Nice, I just returned from Ace Hardware with a new 70 gallon rubbermaid hehe
 
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GOOD DEAL...now heres some helpful links
geheral info video on skippy filters...
https://www.gardenpondforum.com/stock-tank-skippy-video-t3863.html
my skippy build
https://www.gardenpondforum.com/my-70-gallon-skippy-filter-t3083.html
this is incase you cant build a weir (prferred)
https://www.gardenpondforum.com/diy-filter-waterfall-outlets-t4866.html
I like the way you set yours up, I think I will do a bit of copying if you don't mind. The two 2 1/2 tee's that you are using, how are they attached to the bottom of the tank? I like the way you have the water coming in through the nipple drilled at the end of the tank, what size is the water line coming off your pump? I want to do the bottom drain too, that just makes too much sense, before I read your setup I was just thinking of putting a valve at the current SMALLER drain lol.
 

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o.k as far as the flush / drain setup look at my 55gal skippy with the shower drain and 2 inch ball valve assembly. i never took pix of it when i built this one. the 2" tees on the bottom i used as "hinges", you would need a plastic welder to mount. i think most people just let them sit on the floor. i use 1" line (hose) from my pump which is a Tetrapond 1200 gph. as far copying it ..thats why i posted it..to help out others who are DIYers. where i put the pipe thru the side with the nipple, take your time and make sure its water tite. all your inside connections-no need to glue fittings..altho the hose nipple over the tank makes sense too, any drips fall into the filter not the ground....good luck, any more questions just ask.
 
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o.k as far as the flush / drain setup look at my 55gal skippy with the shower drain and 2 inch ball valve assembly. i never took pix of it when i built this one. the 2" tees on the bottom i used as "hinges", you would need a plastic welder to mount. i think most people just let them sit on the floor. i use 1" line (hose) from my pump which is a Tetrapond 1200 gph. as far copying it ..thats why i posted it..to help out others who are DIYers. where i put the pipe thru the side with the nipple, take your time and make sure its water tite. all your inside connections-no need to glue fittings..altho the hose nipple over the tank makes sense too, any drips fall into the filter not the ground....good luck, any more questions just ask.

I'm moving right along here, I got the bottom drain in, cut the hole for the closet flange. I read somewhere the size screws that are needed for the flange but can't find it now, would you know the size off the top of your head?
 
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i used shower drain assemblies for my flush valves, and i built a wier for my filter so i didnt use the closet flange... the weirs are so much better.... as per the pix in the second comment post on this link..........this is where i get my nice flat sheet of water, checkout the pix alittle lower on the page
https://www.gardenpondforum.com/my-70-gallon-skippy-filter-t3083p4.html
 

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