It came with the house

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    GuppieWTR

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    Just bought a house in Upstate South Carolina. The house has a pretty fish pond in the front. Small, 10'x5'-ish kidney shaped. Has a couple of plants (I recognize the water lily - healthy, repeated blooms. I haven't identified the other plant yet a tall stalk critter. Looks mostly healthy, but has some dead stalks that need to be removed.) Has several goldfish/koi/??? fish, at least 4-5. Biggest is about 4", smallest maybe 2".
    The pond has a functioning 4000l Pressure Bio Filter w UV light, and a Terra Pond Cylinder Pre-Filter. We have cleaned them both a couple of times. There is also a small waterfall effect and a long-spitting Frog. They currently are running constantly except when the filters get clogged.
    I don't know what condition the pond was in before, but it sat neglected for at least a month during July/August during negotiations. The water is murky and green, obviously algae. I suspect the bottom of the pond is full of muck.
    I suspect the whole thing needs to be drained and cleaned. I have quite a list of questions which I hope to post in the appropriate forums.
    I look forward to helping this little pond recover.
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    Welcome to our group!

    Post some pictures when you can.
     
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    Tula

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    Welcome :)
     
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    ZEROPILOT Faster than you are.

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    Hello.
    I'm "from" upstate South Carolina. Grew up in Columbia and Fort Mill.
    I'm jealous.
     
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    welcome and congrats for new house and pond , how deep is it and how many inches of bottom mud ?
     
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    I'll have to take some pics. & more specific measurements.
    How do I determine how much mud is in the bottom? I can't see anywhere near the bottom because of the murky green water.
    I will have to get a test kit as well.
     
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    Mmathis TurtleMommy

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    Hello and welcome! Can't wait to see pics!
     
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    Hello and welcome. If you have healthy fish try to think of your water similar to the fish, it is healthy and valuable and you wouldn't want to just discard it.
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    Take a stick and gently push it down until you hit bottom, see if you can feel where you start hitting muck to where you hit the bottom.
     
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    Welcome to the group and good luck with your pond! :)
     
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    ashirley Annie in SC

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    Welcome! I am in Upstate SC. I live in Chester but work in York County. Can't wait to see pics. You will get great information from this group. Everyone is so helpful and not judgmental of newbies.
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    upload_2017-9-15_9-4-56.gif @GuppieWTR If you could buy a long handled screened scoop net and scoop out most of the gunk from the bottom and keep most of your pond water it would benefit the fish. Once you get most of the heavy gunk out your filter will have an easier time cleaning the rest of the water.
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    Oooh - that is a beautiful pond! Plants certainly make the pond, don't they? So natural looking!
     
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    Guppie here again. BUSY moving.
    We had a pond consultant come take a look at our poor green pond. On his advice, and the investigations by Dear Hubby, we got new UV bulbs for the large filter and the Spitting Frog filter. The water has gotten MUCH better. We can see the ledge around the pond, and even the bases of the plants.
    Now that we can see more, we also discovered more fish, for a total of Nine! We can also see the sludge layer. :yuck:
    We have engaged the young man to come help me clean out the pond before winter sets in.
    The fish all seem in good condition except one. He/She is one of the large ones, one of the tri-colors. He looks... lumpy, and filmy, as if his scales were not laying down flat. My limited knowledge of fish suggests he is not healthy (age Unknown). When we get them out to clean the pond, I suspect he may go to the Big Sushi Bar in the Sky. :sorry: But better to remove him than let him transmit an ailment to the others.
    We have determined that we have a leak somewhere in the pond/liner, or hose system. From full, the water level drops 3-4" in a couple of days, but then stabilizes. I am researching pond liners in case I need to have one on hand on cleaning day. Any suggestions on that search? Sources, best choices, etc?
    Oh, yes, I have determined the pond is 'amoeba' shaped, and holds about 415 gallons of water.
    If we get a sunny day, I will try to get a decent pic to post. But it is not much to look at yet. Give me time. :shy:
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    The cleaning you are having done, make sure the liner is not scrubbed clean. Just get the muck removed. You will be facing new pond syndrome just as winter settles in.
     
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    For liner, get the good quality stuff. I think 45 mil is the thickest and still has good flexibility. I thought the prices at Webb's Water Gardens online were good. Can't wait to see your pictures!
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    Stay away from PVC liners. they are not your best choice
     
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    Welcome and pond does not need cleaned by a pro all it needs is your love and like said a swimming pool net .A uv bulb does not last a long time and even though it is lit does not mean it is working .Is this pond a preformed or liner pond .Draining and cleaning a pond is not always good for the pond or the fish .
     
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    ZEROPILOT Faster than you are.

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    Check out an Oase pond vacuum.
    It'll really suck out the slime and scum!
    Also, if you DO replace the liner, I'd increase the pond size (we all wish we had gone larger) and I'd use a Firestone brand liner. It is the toughest out there.
    It costs a bit more, but you probably won't ever have to replace it.
    It's made out of tough "inner tube" type rubber.
    The small pond I had back in York county used to freeze almost solid every winter. But my Goldfish lived through it all.
    I miss winter.
     
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