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Hello All! I the Philadelphia area.
I have 1000 gallon pond with 4 female koi. Looking for some male koi. 2 of my females have been carrying eggs for 3 yrs and I need to get them to drop them. If anyone needs to relocate any koi, please feel free to reach out. Appreciate you all!
 

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Hello All! I the Philadelphia area.
I have 1000 gallon pond with 4 female koi. Looking for some male koi. 2 of my females have been carrying eggs for 3 yrs and I need to get them to drop them. If anyone needs to relocate any koi, please feel free to reach out. Appreciate you all!
Those koi that you have in there now are gonna out grow that pond of yours like, yesterday! You add more and I fear for them all! Start digging a bigger pond as koi need 500 to 1000 gals for just one of them to live well in the long run. Not trying to be mean just giving you the truth 🥰
 

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Hello and welcome!

Are you sure that your koi are egg bound? Can you post pictures (some conditions can look like egg binding)?

Also want to comment that 1000 gallons is not appropriate for koi…..maybe 1 koi, maybe 2….but if you already have 4, are looking to add more. What kind of filtration do you have?
 

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Welcome to the forum!

You are overstocked, walking the fine line of disaster.
 
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I am in Reading area and considering getting rid of a few. Gotta confirm with the boss first.

On the koi to size……. Have 30-33 koi in maybe 3000 gallons. Is it ideal? No? Is it a maintence free pond? No
Are my fish healthy and thriving, YES
 
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Then you see breeders with 50 koi in 1000 gallon tubs. Lol.
The key is always and will always be filtration.

Why is it that all the famous YouTubers with the best dedicated sleeper ponds and Baki showers and rdf’s and nexus filters and low koi count have the most issues with health and parasites?
 

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Then you see breeders with 50 koi in 1000 gallon tubs. Lol.
The key is always and will always be filtration.

Why is it that all the famous YouTubers with the best dedicated sleeper ponds and Baki showers and rdf’s and nexus filters and low koi count have the most issues with health and parasites?
No clue I stick with goldfish.
 
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Then you see breeders with 50 koi in 1000 gallon tubs. Lol.
The key is always and will always be filtration.

Why is it that all the famous YouTubers with the best dedicated sleeper ponds and Baki showers and rdf’s and nexus filters and low koi count have the most issues with health and parasites?
Kind of an odd question you asked, by asking that you are inferring that having more koi you will have fewer issues. It is an age old question as far as how many koi you can keep in whatever set up you may have. There are many guidelines that people use. @addy1 used one rule of thumb, others will say 1 koi for the first 1k gallons and 1 for every 250 gallons thereafter. Others use gallons per inch of fish you have. They are all guidelines and will depend on a lot of variables.

Yes, filtration is important and how much you have will determine the amount of fish you should have. But also factoring into that is how much you feed them, what type of food you feed them, amount of plants you have in the pond, etc. You should not use breeders as an example of what you can keep in a home pond. They do have insane filtration for their tanks but even with that they can have issues (see Next Day Koi earlier this year), but more importantly the breeders are obviously not keeping them long term, so the fish are not in that environment very long (if they were then the breeder is not doing a great business).

People forget how large koi can get and how many babies they can have, it can look like they have a lot of space when they are young in a 1000 gallon pond but in a few years that gets very crowded. There are definitely people out there that have been able to maintain a lot of fish in a small pond. It takes a lot of work and very little margin for error. When people here who have had a lot of experience (@addy1 , @Lisak1 ,@Mmathis and many others) give these guidelines it is because they have seen so many posts from new members saying "my fish were doing great for years and then all of a sudden....." It can take time for overstocking issues to show. They are not saying that if you add a sixth koi all of them will die the next day. It is just that you will have potential problems down the road and maybe the fish do not live quite as long as they have lived if they were not overstocked.
 

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@Pablo Thank you! Well stated! I think that a lot of people jump into pond keeping without the basic knowledge that they need to succeed. I always say, remember the SCIENCE involved: learn about the nitrogen cycle…..and all of the other variables that come into play to keep a pond happy and healthy!
 
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There are also people that speak from internet heresay vs experience.
Perfect example above me by setting a number and then I questioned the number with experience and the person responded “ I have no clue, I have goldfish”

I am not saying more space is not better, but I am saying I know plenty of people with successful small ponds with several koi…… and they even have rocks and no bottom drains ;)
 

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There are also people that speak from internet heresay vs experience.
Perfect example above me by setting a number and then I questioned the number with experience and the person responded “ I have no clue, I have goldfish”

I am not saying more space is not better, but I am saying I know plenty of people with successful small ponds with several koi…… and they even have rocks and no bottom drains ;)
I don't use all the extensive filtration etc, my reply was to your ? About youtubers etc.

Like others on the forum, we see so many post.....why did all my koi die?

You can stock as you want, we just offer suggestions.
 
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Well you said you have goldfish. You
Don’t need extensive filtration for goldfish

My guess is these boards are like Facebook groups and the people saying all their fish die make minimal effort to learn and know little to nothing about their setup

Even with small load, filtration means more than anything on water quality
 

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Lol I could have a load of koi, my filtration is huge. Large bog, technically 7 settling ponds etc.

I prefer plants and goldfish that leave the plants alone.

water always crystal clear, unless I am purging bog plants.

Still recovering from the snake attack, lost around 200 fish.
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