Little help with Pickering Rush

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    Not sure whats wrong i think it's dead. I planted it in my bog at "surface level" of the water line but doesn't seem to be doing well. It has moderate sun and still in the original soil and pot it came in.

    Don't ask about ph etc levels as i never tested in 8 years i have been working on this pond.

    There has been no changes to the pond or any "meds" added to the pond.

    My creeping jennys and cork screw and i forget what the other plant is in the bog are doing well.
     

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    It's just a guess but looks like root rot to me.
     
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    possible cause? rest of the plant in bog are fine
     
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    I don't know, maybe being in the pot the roots couldn't breethe allowing fungus to grow? I had 8 gerber daisies die from root rot one by one next to lettuce that wasn't affected and I haven't been able to figure that one out.
     
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    Take it out; if the roots are still firmly attached to the stalk maybe it can be saved. It might not be root rot at all.
     
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    Sorry to post back to back to back. I have horsetail rush that limped along in a decorative fountain for a couple years. Took it out threw it in a 5 gallon bucket, left in the Lily basket and it took off and now is at least 4' tall.
     
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    I think it's being choked to death by being in the pot. The roots have no where to spread and it may not be getting enough water if it's root bound. It may be too late, but you could try taking it out of the pot and planting it directly in the gravel. Pickerel is a pretty hardy plant - it might have a chance.

    Bog plants, in order to function like you want them to function, should all be planted directly in the gravel. Otherwise you just have a gravel and water container holding your potted plants, basically. Let those roots grow and do their job!
     
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    I understand that but it was a new ish plant so we left it as is and planted in the bog to let it acclimate prior to transplanting directly to bog with bare ish roots.
     
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    @IPA I am out for businesses at atm and can not provide better pics of roots but my awesome wife took a few for me I can provide better pics sat not sure they will help.
     

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    No need. When you plant a plant in the soil, do you keep it in the pot first? The plant will acclimate if the environment is right. In other words, if the plant likes water and you plant it in water, it will grow.
     
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    When I had root rot there was hardly any roots attached to the stem. I am no expert but that doesn't seem to be the issue. I think maybe the roots needed to be deeper and the pot wasn't helping. From what I can find most all rushes require similar environments and requirements. Here is a site that says pickerel rush can grow in up to 12" of water so it will probably be better if the water is above the stem root connection. I'd put it in a bucket or container with enough water that won't evaporate too quickly and see if it recovers; don't use chlorinated water of course. I made that mistake thinking, they are in a 5 gallon bucket, no fish, what can it hurt.

    http://nationalpondservice.com/water-plant-pickerel-rush/
     
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    Wife corrected me it was re potted roots take up less the 1/4th of the pot. Only soil is what's on the roots rest is gravel. It's potted do to the planting location next to the out manifold in the bog.

    The root crown or top is just below water
     
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    @IPA Thanks for link doesn't appear I planted it wrong.
     
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    Well that's misinformation.
    Depending (and i'm not going to get into it) on the plant, they have VERY different needs and specific chemicals to grow.
     
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    Let me amend... if you have a plant that you are sure enjoys a bog or pond environment, and you put it in your pond or bog, it will grow. No need to coddle it along and wait until it's better suited to that particular environment.
     
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    I think it's dead maybe i removed to much soil when i re potted. oh well $6 plant will try again next year.
     
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    @Angel bog plants don't need any soil at all - they just need to be IN the bog. Not trying to belabor the point here, but I'd hate to see you make the same mistake again and be disappointed. You can wash the roots clean of ALL the dirt and plant in your bog and plants will go crazy. Just ditch the pot!
     
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    Completely agree and you really do not need to remove the dirt, it will not migrate within your 'bog'.
     
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    I knocked of excess dirt but left what was in the roots. Was not worried about migration as the dirt would settle in bog or eventually get filtered out.

    I left the dirt on the roots for the Jenny's and cork screw.

    Maybe I drowned it. Or just got a bad plant.

    Who knows. Not gonna plant anything this year as winter will be here soon. Perhaps next year
     
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    Went to check on my pond tonight and now I am thinking it was slugs as there are 3 in the bog now and the rush was the only broad leaf plant.
     
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