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this is what i did this morning.....decided a seating wall was in order so.... i will either be artificial stoning the block or stuccoing it...havent decided yet. or brick facing ..who knows?
 

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the brick is maybe the way to go.....theyre calling for storms the next few days so that will give me time to stare at it..........
 
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i dig it. Did you just cement those cinders on the patio directly without any support? I want to do the same thing by my pool deck, but didn't want to bother with rods or anything in the center of the cinders. I figured if it was a low wall like yours it wouldn't need it. What did you do?
 

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i mortared it normally then cut some 2x4s to about 14' and dropped them in the cavities and filled with a cement mix with gravel aggregate.
 
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so, no rebar or anything. just mortared in those 2x4's. What exactly is the purpose of the 2x4 if it's not anchored down? I'm seeking to learn....
 

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koiguy1969 said:
i mortared it normally then cut some 2x4s to about 14' and dropped them in the cavities and filled with a cement mix with gravel aggregate.
This has me curious as well. Normally 2X4 forms are removed after establishing a foundation or perimeter of a slab. They are never left in a concrete pour.
 

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i know this is not the norm, but this is a seating wall, on a 30 year old patio. drilling and epoxying rebar into the old pour would have been the norm but this wall isnt structural and i had the 2x4s they basically just partially filled the cavities to lessen the concrete amount. i'm no mason but this should serve its purpose fine.
 
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that's why I'm asking. I have an old pool deck made of concrete and would like to ring one side of it with a short wall like yours. It won't be for seating, but I can picture the kids sitting/walking on it...so I have to account for that.

But I have no means (and don't want to), drill down for rebar or such support. I'm looking for a short wall because my property is on an incline and i'm forever getting dirt on my pool deck. I figured a short wall would stop it. I figured something like your wall, of just two courses high of cinder would not need any support inside and it would be fine....

correct me if i'm wrong...or before i build something stupid...
 
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Looks good. I do concrete as a side job. You may be Ok but, we always tie rebar into the existing slab but don't epoxy for flat work. Durring freeze/thaw conditions you can get lift differentials if they are not tied. I've seen it without too and saw no issue. I consider it insurance.
 

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