Need pump suggestions

[addy1]

I am helping a friend fix their pond, the sump pump they had running quit. It was a dirty water sump pump 2.9 amps.

Per using surface area to figure gallons this is what he comes up with:

"think I can get the 518 sq feet surface area into gallons as follows: the depth of the two ponds varies particularly the larger/lower one where the outside area is about 2 feet in depth and the center area is about 2.5 feet in depth. This probably means we have an average depth of about 2.25 feet. This yields a volume of 1,165.5 cubic feet. (518 sq. ft. x 2.25 ft. = 1,165.5 cu. ft.). Google says 1 cu ft = 7.48 US gallons, so our ponds contain about (1,165.5 x 7.48 = ) 8,718 US gallons."

The pond is three layers, one does not appear to be in the water flow loop. But we are going to try and add some water flow to it. A beautiful pond built professionally years ago.


Give me a bit I am adding what they have, how it flows in a few.

 

[addy1]

flow

From the top pond on the left is the x0 that is the outlet into the pond, the s x is the skimmer in the lower pond, the ? is the pond that does not appear to be in the loop

The water comes down from the top level into the bottom pond via water fall, S is skimmer.

 

[j.w]

Kinda reminds me of the setup @callingcolleen1 has. She has good luck w/hers. Maybe she can give some input. All I have is the one pond about 2400 gals and using a 4200 Laguna submersible. They may need more than one pump tho especially when it comes to the 3rd pond w/no flow from the others yet.

 

[sissy]

WOW nice pond .love the rocks and the bridge

 

[addy1]

This is the skimmer box. 12 wide 18 long, 18 deep

This is the out flow box, there is around a 1.5 inch hole in the bottom, had two pads then bags of lava rock on top.

outflow box

 

[addy1]

They may need more than one pump tho especially when it comes to the 3rd pond w/no flow from the others yet.

I am thinking of putting a T into the outflow box, run a small pipe to the far end of the top pond to have flow, it does connect via a small water way, but no input of water from the lower ponds.

 

[addy1]

But now what pump to buy I do not do submersibles, or filter boxes or skimmer boxes. I just do bogs lol and external pumps

 

[addy1]

WOW nice pond .love the rocks and the bridge

It is beautiful a famous author owned the property until till a few years back. We met the new owners when we put a few bee hives on their property. 1/2 mile from us as the bee flies.

 

[j.w]

I think @callingcolleen1 uses the Laguna ones too but not sure for all of them. Lots say Laguna is great. I had my Pondmaster for over 15 yrs tho and it worked like a champ. So they definitely want a submersible?

 

[DutchMuch]

dang that is pretty, sorry for interrupting but I had to say that

 

[addy1]

dang that is pretty, sorry for interrupting but I had to say that

interrupt away, no problem It is beautiful!

The house was built in 1826 a old mill house.

 

[DutchMuch]

Now that you mentioned it, saw the house in the background. My kind of house lol! on a 100 acre farm !

 

[addy1]

Now that you mentioned it, saw the house in the background. My kind of house lol! on a 100 acre farm !

They have a lot of acres, bordered by a river woods and farm land. I don't recall how many they said they have.

 

[Meyer Jordan]

Need to positively determine if there are one (1) or two (2) systems. If there are two (2), then which pump re you replacing? Why would you want to connect the third pond [if it is indeed independent of the other two (2)] at this point in time?
What is the current fish load?
What is the present level of biofiltration?
Need to know answers to all three (3) questions before determination of the correct size of the replacement pump can be made.

 

[addy1]

No or very few fish like one maybe, gf. Lots of frogs.

The top pond is stagnant, if we can get some water going to it, it would just flow down into the other ponds. There is a spill way. It is independent per no water flowing to it , but it does spill into the lower two. They know very little about the system the person owning the house passed.

They had it cleaned last year but did not get a lot of info about how it runs.

There is only one pump, per our inspection and their info.

Per our inspection there is the skimmer filter, matala pads, and a big box in the ground with three white matala type pads and two bags of lava rock. Looks like up flow through the white pads then past the lava rock.

We could do a split of the flow out of that input into the pond, to just have some water movement in the top pond, it would then flow into the lower pond.