Hello everyone,\nI don't know where to start,,,so I'll begin with this all started about 20 years ago when I aquired an abandoned turtle. Then the turtle needed a friend, and then I needed a pond. I moved 4 times since that first turtle, but never got that pond...until 3 months ago.\nObviously, you can tell I love my 20 year old turtles, they finally got their pond! But, I wanted to be able to share it, so I could enjoy it as well. That meant alot of careful planning...but I still haven't a clue to what I'm doing!\nAnyways, I do not have any help (though I did have the pond built by supposed to be proffesional ponders...but the liner around the bog was cut to short, as well as a couple other areas), i'm in my later half of 50 and have been left with finishing the pond project on my own. But, I'm ok with that, I just need some help and advice from people who know what they are talking about.\nHere's what I have...it's 9 by 11 feet with a skimmer running to the waterfall which spills over in two places. One falls in to the pond and a smaller flow spills into the bog. My turtles can not get to the top of the falls or into the bog at all. Nor, can they escape from the pond, except to bask on rocks and they have a small beach area to get out and roam a bit.\nI can't put starter plants in the pond, as the turtles will munch. So I want to grow them elsewhere, like in the bog, till big enough to transfer over to the pond...I think. Like i said, I need some help...\n\nSusan\n\nHere's a couple pic's. But right now i'm dealing with the bog burts out because...well I'll take that elsewhere. Thanks for having me and I've already picked up some excellent tips here on the forum.