New Pond Owner!

Discussion in 'Newbies to Garden Ponds' started by calvino, Oct 5, 2008.

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    Hi guys, im new too this pond stuff, but i always wanted to get one since i was in year 6.
    But my parents wouldn't let me, so instead i got lots of tanks and raised fish and various other aquatic animals in them.

    I just need a few questions answered, i use a fly screen to cover the pond is this poisonous?

    The water is yellow, and the aquatic plants are starting to rot. I trim them, will the grow back?

    I use gravel on the bottom of the pond, but many decayed leaves and other droppings are sliding into them, will they get naturally removed?

    I want a natural pond, with no filter running, is that okay? Or do i have to use a filter?, and if so are there any solar powered ones since i have no idea how to get a power source into my garden.

    Right now i have a Shurbunkin and a comet in the pond to test if the water is ok, i have 1 30cm koi, 3 baby kois and a comet soon to be in the pond
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    Thanks ^^.
     
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    DrDave Innovator Moderator

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    Have you heard of the Dead Sea? No inlet or outlet, hence no circulation. No circulation, waste accumulates and eventually everything dies.

    At the very least (my preference) you need a bio filter. That requires power.

    Getting power to a pond requires digging a trench and running conduit, then pulling wires. If you can't go under, then build a Pergola or other structure and run the conduit along the structure overhead.

    It might not be easy and if you have to pay someone it won't be cheap, but the alternatives are no pond or move it to the power.
     
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    Won't fish disturb the water enough to maintain a natural circulation, and if i had sufficient plants to consume waste and provide Oxygen for fish would it be possible to have no filters?

    I just added my prized fish into that pond (Koi, Comets and Shurbunkins)
    Should i remove them and put them back into the tank???

    Please reply ASAP!
     
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    Sorry for double post but, i moved the fish back into the tanks..

    Now the question is will a gravity filter be enough the circulate the water and keep it clean?, and does it use nothing but gravity to power it?. :banghead3:

    Thank you :wink:
     
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    DrDave Innovator Moderator

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    Gravity brings it down but something has to push it back up. Good move putting them back into tanks with some form of circulation.
     
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    You mentioned that you had aquariums growing up. Well, the filtration concept works the same. The pond is a closed system and there needs to be some way to clean the water.

    Water quality is also the same. The leaves that fall to the bottom will rot and make the water dirty and unsafe. You can prevent that by installing a pump, netting the pond during fall and scooping out or vacuuming up the leaves and debris.

    Different aquatic plants have different requirements. Floating plants will die in the cold and will not grow back. Submersibles will survive most winters (I do not know what zone you are in). Hardys and Marginals have their own requirements too. You must know what plant type you have and what zone you live in to know what to do for the winter.

    Fly screen?
     
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    Well i have no other choice then, also one of my baby koi is getting a swim bladder problem, i moved him into a isolating tank, but i hope he will get better soon.. :bowdown:

    And yes a fly screen its pretty much a giant flexible net that prevents flies from getting indoor. I use it to prevent leaves and debris from entering my pond.
     
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    DrDave Innovator Moderator

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    With a big enough solar panel, you can power a city. It all comes down to watts needed to power your pump.
    P=IE
    Watts=Amps*Volts
     
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    Are there any pond pumps that have that size solar panel available?

    And thanks for the replies guys! Really helped ^^, Especially the elite DrDave!
     
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    can you run a long extensioncord out to your pond and get a normal pump??? or like DrDave said move the pond to the power...you need it
     
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    DrDave Innovator Moderator

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    "Where there is a will, there is a way." "Excuses are an opportunity for failure".

    The devil made me do it....

    The bottom line is: You can do it if you really want to.
     
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    Thanks guys for your advices, i have found my answer, i will get an extension cord some how near my pond and purchase a DC gravity filter and pump.

    Ill keep you guys updated and post a picture of the finished project!.
     
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    Update:

    Sadly enough i had to remove my pond since my dad said the retaining wall could not hold the pond's water pressure and will collapse..
    So now im back to having a garden bed agian :bowdown:, thanks for the help guys.
     
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    DrDave Innovator Moderator

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    Thats too bad. If the retaining wall is that fragile, it won't hold back the dirt when it rains. If it is tall, then I would stay away from it.:eek2:
     
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    :4_13_71: These three things are an must for a healthy, happy pond. Filtration, Circulation, Airation. With out them your pond will turn into a stink hole. The gravel bottom will only compound the problem because you cannot clean the gunk out of it.
     
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    you can make a raised pond in your garden
     
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    Iv'e given up on making another pond, instead im going to focus on getting a 4 foot aquarium setup, since it is much more easier.

    Also, my friend had a pond with no filtration it basically cleaned it self(Water was clear), but i guess that is rare.

    The wall retainer was holding alot of dirt, but im not going to take the risk since the body coporates might blame me for any leaks in the garage (Since the pond is above the garage)

    And i heard having gravel on the pond is a good idea since it promotes good bacteria growth.

    Now, i need to know if i can keep a pond lily in my fish tank with fluro light, i read some details it won't grow unless it has direct sunlight. And im not sure if it would live if it would live if i have a hood on the fish tank.

    So if anyone can help me out with this issue i would be greatly thankful.

    Thanks agian,

    Calvin
     
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    this depends on how big the pond is, how many fish, what kind of plants, etc
     
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    Hi...I am in the process of building a pond 16.5 x 8 x 3 (deepest). That is about 3000 gal?? It does not have any plants in it. How full do I put it for the winter? And, should I leave it or put fish in it for this winter Zone 5, Ontario, Canada?? And, you talk about an air stone....just a large fish tank one is good enough?? I appreciate your input.
     
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