New to ponds in Southeastern Ohio

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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    If it is just at the edge it will wait until you have the time. The only leak that would really hurt is one that is deep in the pond and drains it dry.
     
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    Here is a picture of the ice flow from the "leak."

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    and this one is a close up of "source."

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    The water was flowing from under the edge of the brick and slightly under the liner.
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    Looks like you have a low spot, and the water is just flowing out there, if there is water under the liner, it might just be back flow.
     
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    Yeh addy is right just like an ice dam happens on your roof and backs up under and can come back into your house .If there is no overflow in your pond that will happen .It has happened to my pond before when my overflow got cut off by lily leaves .
     
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    Well everything thawed yesterday, and my wife notice there was still water running. The water level was a good two inches below the lip and dropping still. So I was pretty worried. I took a hard look a the liner and didn't see any cuts and the algae on the liner was not indicating any water flow. So I too a few of the brinks off the liner and looked at it and made a discovery.

    The liner was folded at that point where the water was coming out. The fold had enough algae and grime in its crease that once the water over flowed due to rain it started a suction/wicking action and was drawing water up the fold, over the lip, and the out of the pond. I broke the suction by unfolding and refolding the liner, and the "leak" has finally stopped. I'm down 2 inches of water but I bet that it will be refilled with rain over the next couple months.
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    Fantastic! That is an easy fix. I had a fold in my bog liner, on the edge, once it started flowing a bunch of water went out fast. Water will find a way if it can!
     
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    relief spelled thank goodness it was something small and easy to fix
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Really happy for you and you didn't have to spend a penny or break your back fixing it!
     
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    pretty goldfish.And welcome
     
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    Thanks,

    Hopefully the fish are still all are doing well be spring.
     
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    A quick update to keep all in one post:

    I've lost 4 of 9 goldfish. One to the winter, and 3 to a predator to be named later.

    I added 2 koi (1 white) purchased at Petland - lost those to a predator

    I removed 1 very large bullfrog that may have been eating the fish

    I remodeled the waterfall, and added a 2-stage DYI filter system

    I added another row of retaining wall, and raised the water level 6" in increase volume to slightly more than 900 gallons (6 ft wide X 8 ft long X 2.5 ft avg depth X 7.7)

    I removed 80% of the built up muck of the bottom (rest has plants in it), divided the large lilly root ball into 3 smaller parts and replanted with cat litter in pond baskets I had on hand.

    I've since added fifteen 2" koi of different darker colors with the expectation that I may lose some to a predator while I try and figure out what's eating them and adjust the set up more.
    I couldn't help myself and added two 4 inch white koi. - One has been eaten, and the other lost most of one of its front fin (has a stub) to something (still trying to figure out what's getting them).

    I began planning for a larger 1500-1600 gal pond that would connect by a steep stream/rock pile (liner arrived today) to the current pond. This pond will be 3ft+ at its deepest. This dig will start once the Pergola is finished (wood was delivered today).
     
    natbla, May 3, 2012
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    you are going to be busy for a while. Hope you figure out what is eating your fish.
     
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    I hope so too. We saw the raccoon again last night, but I don't see any missing fish. Still a possibility.
     
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    maybe that glowing orb would work against raccoon's .I guess if you have them you will have to watch out for rabies also .Hope they go away
     
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    I have confirmed the predictor, and it's name is Bully the Bullfrog. Tonight, while feeding the fish, I witnessed the largest bullfrog float slowly toward the feeding fish, then suddenly lunge at the fish. Relocated him to another location without a direct route back to my pond. I'll do the same thing to the other large bullfrog when I can catch it tomorrow.
     
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    I have read they will eat fish, guess you saw it happen, or attempt to happen.
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Naughty Bully!!
     
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    The second bullfrog is now gone too. Now down to three small.green frogs.
     
    natbla, May 9, 2012
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    I read they hibernate under water, so next year when I net them out, they are being relocated. I found a few and tossed them back in, did not realize they were bullies.
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    good for you..on the additional pond build. wish i could afford a redo on mine
    oh..just a FYI note...your math should be W x L x D x 7.48 = pond volume. not 7.7...... but your still at just under 900 gals (897.6 gals.)
     
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