Plant leaves turn yellow in main pond.


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Wondering if someone could explain the reason for this happening. I have a main pond with goldfish and koi in it. Off to the side I have an area about 5x5 and 2 ft deep that has nothing but plants in it. The same water is being pumped through both. The plants that are in the main pond are looking shabby and yellow, but the plants in the smaller non fish area are lush ,green and growing out of control. Any thoughts on this?
 
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Maybe the koi are eating their roots? They eat all the plants they can stuff in their piggy mouths ya know :cool:
 
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All the plants are in pots. Lilies, parrot feather, arrowhead. The pots don't look disturbed.
 
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are the plants that are in the other area in pots? iff not the potted plants roots may be rotting......
 
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Thats a possible pondbuilder since I haven't repotted them in forever. Thanks for the idea, I'll have to check on that tomorrow. I figured since they didn't jump the pot or split the sides they were ok.
 
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I'd check the depth of the pots. Might be to deep and causing root rot. How's the sun in that area? Also what media are the plants in? Might need some fert if they arn't in gravel. Roots could be spiraling around itself.
 
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As Kenneth is saying, how long has it been in the same pot, some do need separating after a couple of years as the over fill the pot and actually start starving the plant itself out.
 
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Lilies are about 18 to 20" deep and the rest are on plant shelve. All plants are potted in pea gravel and full sun. I know the land plants when they turn yellow are lacking iron. Don't know if its the same for water plants. I did read somewhere on the net that you can add liquid iron to your pond and will help green them up without hurting the fish. Anyone try this?
 

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Do you have a bottom drain in both ponds? The plant pond may be like a settlement chamber getting extra fish poop in it, therefore more nutrients. just a thought.
 
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I'd run a nitrate test if you can. I wonder if thier low and starving the plants. And the bogs doing better because the solids that it gets to fed on.
 

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I just looked at my hyacinth, the stuff in the big pond, yellowish, the stuff in the small ponds fed by the same water, nice and green. The water in the small ponds is warmer, and the stream is not running 24/7 so probably a better collection of nutrients for the plants.

And the small ponds are almost like a settlement chamber, junk collects on the bottom of the ponds, to be cleaned out end of season.
 
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I took some of the pots out of the main pond and checked on the roots. Sure enough they were rotted, soft and mushy. What causes the roots to rot? They are water plants after all.
As far as the plant pond is concerned , it does act as a settlement chamber. Is all that stuff that settles good for the plants or should it be cleaned out regularly? Thanks for all your help.
 

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Mr Magoo said:
I took some of the pots out of the main pond and checked on the roots. Sure enough they were rotted, soft and mushy. What causes the roots to rot? They are water plants after all.
As far as the plant pond is concerned , it does act as a settlement chamber. Is all that stuff that settles good for the plants or should it be cleaned out regularly? Thanks for all your help.
I leave mine alone till end of year. It has not affected my water quality at all, and the plants love it. (this is the smaller stream ponds, no fish, just frogs, tads, snails and plants)
 

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Mr Magoo said:
I took some of the pots out of the main pond and checked on the roots. Sure enough they were rotted, soft and mushy. What causes the roots to rot? They are water plants after all.
As far as the plant pond is concerned , it does act as a settlement chamber. Is all that stuff that settles good for the plants or should it be cleaned out regularly? Thanks for all your help.
Anerobic bacteria, Nasty little guys! They cause hydrogen sulfide build up which is deadly to plants and fish.
 
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Root rot, bummer. Did you have them just a tad to deep in the water? Try pulling as much of the rotting roots off and repot. Just make sure to leave enough to grow. Might have to cut back foliage to help it if there isn't a lot of roots left. Could also try leaving them out of the pond for a few weeks and just water them until some fresh roots grow.
 

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fishin4cars said:
Anerobic bacteria, Nasty little guys! They cause hydrogen sulfide build up which is deadly to plants and fish.
more of just some mud and plant pieces in the stream and little ponds. It is a clear water pump that feeds that part of the system, sucks the water mid level of the pond. The only pump we could find that would not break the bank and deal with our head pressure.
 
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Addy, I was actually responding to Mr.Magoo's post. LOL yellow leaves can be directly related to haet in many species of aquatic plants, Right now I have many that have yellow edging, Taro, thalia, water lettuce, lily's, and this is in multiple water holding containers. The smaller the container the worse the problem seems to be,
 

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addy1 said:
I just looked at my hyacinth, the stuff in the big pond, yellowish, the stuff in the small ponds fed by the same water, nice and green. The water in the small ponds is warmer, and the stream is not running 24/7 so probably a better collection of nutrients for the plants.

And the small ponds are almost like a settlement chamber, junk collects on the bottom of the ponds, to be cleaned out end of season.
All my floating plants seem to do better in the creek and in my waterfall area than they do in the big pond. They run 24/7 and the waterfall has a lot of water volume moving through it, the creek has a slow amount of water going through it.
 

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fishin4cars said:
Addy, I was actually responding to Mr.Magoo's post. LOL yellow leaves can be directly related to haet in many species of aquatic plants, Right now I have many that have yellow edging, Taro, thalia, water lettuce, lily's, and this is in multiple water holding containers. The smaller the container the worse the problem seems to be,
laughing fishin! we all get confused...............
 
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fishin4cars said:
Anerobic bacteria, Nasty little guys! They cause hydrogen sulfide build up which is deadly to plants and fish.
Does this anerobic bacteria occur in pots that have pea gravel or will it occur no matter what they are planted in?
 
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