Pond leaking

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    BBurnJackie

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    I am pretty sure I have a leak somewhere in the falls area of my pond because when it was off in the winter and I used just the aerator and deicer, the pond level was unchanged. And I just did a test and turned off the pump, therefor the falls, and the level stayed the same. Otherwise, depending on rain, I am adding water to the pond every 2-3 days.(so the pump stays below water in the skimmer) The company who put it in is very busy, came by once and did not see where the problem. I'm a little ticked at that. Thought the smart veteran pond owners here could direct me on how to detect that leak.
     
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    Can you post some photos of the waterfall area from different angles..
     
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    Do these photos help? I do have fish and a couple frogs in the pond. The foliage around the falls seem fuller this year ... though that may be my imagination.
     
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    I would closely inspect the area within the Yellow outline.
    GPF waterfall leak2.JPG

    The flat rock appears to be sitting quite low in the water. It can also be seen in your photo 214. jpg
    If the liner is not properly positioned behind the rock water could be seeping under this rock.
    I would start looking in that spot. The soil behind the rock should be quite moist if not wet.
     
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    That's a nice set-up. Don't forget about evaporation. It's crazy hot around here. Afternoon thunderstorms have been doing a nice job of replenishing the water many days, but the water drop before each storm is noticeable. I would estimate my pond drops up to 2 inches on the hottest days. I have a stream/waterfall, too, and that's more surface area to evaporate.
     
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    THANK YOU!! Very kind of you to take the close look. I will inspect tomorrow and report back!
     
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    I am in that area of northern Illinois that got all the flooding last week. My yard was a swamp until the storm drains cleared. A rainfall more or less takes the place of filling which I documented over a month. On the average I have to add water every 2-3 days. We don't have runs of very hot weather. I turned off the falls for 5 days and did not have the problem. I am going to look closely again at the falls as Meyer Jordan suggested. BTW, thanks for the compliment. I LOVE my pond and falls. I look out on it from a kitchen with sliding doors. Feels like I am outside!
     
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    Be sure to check your falls for areas where plants may be wicking water or crossing over the liner from the stream to the surrounding ground. Plants can re-direct the flow of the water out of the stream without it being apparent. Good luck!

    Glad to hear the flood waters have receded. Still a few roads closed, but things seem to be clearing up all around us as well.
     
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    You're right; I should have read your first post more carefully. Turning off the falls is the way to isolate that variable, which you did. We're in a little heat wave here right now, so I read your post through my own current experience, incorrectly. I hope you find your leak. I had one in the Fall and it was beyond aggravating.
     
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    That flat rock is in front of a substantial bit of the rubber liner. So I will have to continue to look for the leak. But thanks so much for your input. It is definitely in the falls.
     
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    What is the age of this pond?
    Do you happen to know if one continuous piece of liner was used for both pond and waterfalls or where there two or more pieces overlapped in the construction process?
     
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    You might also look for areas along the falls/stream that are growing better, faster, longer, etc than others. That's often a clue that water is flowing in/on/through there.
     
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    have u tried turning off ur waterfall ?
     
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    I was having the same issue.
     
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    It's in the original post @Usman . That's why she suspected the falls in the first place.
     
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    I wish I could help, but I just wanted to chime in and compliment you on the lovely waterfall feature. Really stunning. Good luck with the fix. The evaporation has really ramped up here in Kansas over the last couple of weeks, and I'm having to add 3-4" of water every 10 days or so.
     
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    could your plants hanging over be wicking water up and out of the waterfall .I had water hyacinth that had roots last year that escaped the waterfall pond and they were pulling water out of the pond to stay alive .The plant was in the water but had babies that were hanging over the side out of the water .I guess momma plant was trying to keep her babies alive.
     
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    I took photos as they were building it. There is one continuous piece of liner over the pond and waterfalls and the pond was installed July of 2014.The installer came by. He is puzzled but thought maybe my statue which has an orb that water was flowing over was splashing too much. I think he is full of algae!! This statue has been there since day one and the water flow has not changed. Remain perplexed!!
     
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    My plants are on the periphery except water lilies. But I will take a closer look. Thanks!
     
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