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So the plan is to get the rest of the rocks around the pond done and then start working on the walking path around the pond and a few other areas. This will include a lot of plants around the pond as well. I'm working on the plants on the inside of the pond too.
I've been focusing on skimming a lot since it is near a tree line in the back of the yard. The lack of pulling water from the lower water column (or anywhere outside of the water surface) is leaving the water a bit murky as well as muck all on the bottom. Middle of last year and prior, when I had the larger pump at the bottom of the pond (about 6" off the floor) it moved a lot of the muck up through the bog filter and filter in the waterfall housing. It kept the water a lot cleaner. So I'm planning on getting a third and final pump installed (already purchased).
I have two pictures below. I have one that is the current high level design with the 'proposed' sieve type filter which will pull from about 6" from the bottom. I may try doing some sort of Sieve filter myself (DIY) or some other mechanical filter I can get all the smaller debris out of the water passing on thru. But has to be something that I can just pop a lid, pull out a screen, wipe/wash it and put it back in.
I'm trying to determine what to run as far as permanent piping goes. Right now I have 1.5" black flexible pipe running everything to try it out. So now I am finishing up design with 2" and 3" PVC piping. This last filter I am going to be putting in, I wasn't planning on but now I think I need it. So I'll be finishing up the design in CAD, buying the piping, figuring out where to put all my access vaults and then get that tractor out and start digging.
As I was doing some of the drawings, measuring out the runs, etc... I thought about something. If I hook all three pumps back into a 3" PVC 'trunk' line and then have 3" ball valves going to each area, would that work? Basically P01, P02 and P03 feeding into a 3" trunk line. Then it would go to the first Y. I would have a ball valve I can open and close (and adjust) to decide how much of the water I want to go to the BOG. Then the second one would be to the waterfall. Then the third would be to the sieve/mechanical filter.
I thought if I do it this way, I have more control and 'backup. If a pump goes out with this layout, I could still provide water to all three areas but just not as much. Once I replaced the pump, I would be back at full capacity. If I decide to upgrade that smaller pump, everything would still work and I could adjust the ball valve to the bog to limit the amount that goes there but can have most of it go to the sieve to filter it.
My concern, and the reason I'm writing here for feedback, will the pumps fight and force each other to work a little harder as the water is filling up that 3" trunk? I know they'll go the least path of resistance, but lets say I shut down the bog and waterfall a lot and trying to force 80% of it to the sieve to get the water quality better... would the pumps fight each other (too much pressure)? I feel like it would be fine but I just didn't want to burn the pumps out if they have to work harder in this setup.
Thoughts?
** CURRENT ; NOT TO SCALE ; HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW
** WHAT IF ?
I've been focusing on skimming a lot since it is near a tree line in the back of the yard. The lack of pulling water from the lower water column (or anywhere outside of the water surface) is leaving the water a bit murky as well as muck all on the bottom. Middle of last year and prior, when I had the larger pump at the bottom of the pond (about 6" off the floor) it moved a lot of the muck up through the bog filter and filter in the waterfall housing. It kept the water a lot cleaner. So I'm planning on getting a third and final pump installed (already purchased).
I have two pictures below. I have one that is the current high level design with the 'proposed' sieve type filter which will pull from about 6" from the bottom. I may try doing some sort of Sieve filter myself (DIY) or some other mechanical filter I can get all the smaller debris out of the water passing on thru. But has to be something that I can just pop a lid, pull out a screen, wipe/wash it and put it back in.
I'm trying to determine what to run as far as permanent piping goes. Right now I have 1.5" black flexible pipe running everything to try it out. So now I am finishing up design with 2" and 3" PVC piping. This last filter I am going to be putting in, I wasn't planning on but now I think I need it. So I'll be finishing up the design in CAD, buying the piping, figuring out where to put all my access vaults and then get that tractor out and start digging.
As I was doing some of the drawings, measuring out the runs, etc... I thought about something. If I hook all three pumps back into a 3" PVC 'trunk' line and then have 3" ball valves going to each area, would that work? Basically P01, P02 and P03 feeding into a 3" trunk line. Then it would go to the first Y. I would have a ball valve I can open and close (and adjust) to decide how much of the water I want to go to the BOG. Then the second one would be to the waterfall. Then the third would be to the sieve/mechanical filter.
I thought if I do it this way, I have more control and 'backup. If a pump goes out with this layout, I could still provide water to all three areas but just not as much. Once I replaced the pump, I would be back at full capacity. If I decide to upgrade that smaller pump, everything would still work and I could adjust the ball valve to the bog to limit the amount that goes there but can have most of it go to the sieve to filter it.
My concern, and the reason I'm writing here for feedback, will the pumps fight and force each other to work a little harder as the water is filling up that 3" trunk? I know they'll go the least path of resistance, but lets say I shut down the bog and waterfall a lot and trying to force 80% of it to the sieve to get the water quality better... would the pumps fight each other (too much pressure)? I feel like it would be fine but I just didn't want to burn the pumps out if they have to work harder in this setup.
Thoughts?
** CURRENT ; NOT TO SCALE ; HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW
** WHAT IF ?