Pond Redo- need help with some DIY filter


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@USMC Ponder - I can answer that one for you. If you don't have enough to do a one piece liner for bog and pond, you can use two pieces and you always want to overlap liners - so the bottom liner goes under and the top liner goes over.

As for recommended depth - that depends on who's doing the recommending!
 

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@addy1 do I overlap pond liners to get the bog to flow back in? Is that the preferred method? I don't think I'll have enough space for a super large bog. Got my Danner pump and I have a couple smaller ones I could use to feed the bog. so is 2.5 feet the recommended depth? Also how long is yours, you mention it's 4.5' wide.
Well all I read during my build was 12-18 inches was recommended depth of gravel, I just dug a lot and made mine deep. It works for me.
Mine in 27 feet long, the far end goes shallow to around a foot deep.

I have just one main pump that takes water form the big pond and feeds the bog.

My pond and bog are all one piece of liner. If you need to have two liners, have your bog higher than the pond so the liner drapes down and over the ponds liner, above water level, with a decent drop. I built the stream that way.
 
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Update. It's been warm all weekend, in the 70's so I got the new pond liner back in, made it 40" deep and reduced the width of some shelves. Got the skippy filter built but I seem to have a leak from the corregated tubing (1 1/4") to the threaded barb. Even used a hose clamp but it just squirts everywhere. So my question is, what do I do to mitigate this. The skippy website says to use a nipple reducer so would that work better?

Any suggestions would be great. Visuals even better LOL.

Also what kind of silicone should I use to seal around the drain I installed? This would be the spot where the 4" flange is. I used a 2" shower drain since I am not using the flange (doing the mini skippy due to pond only being around 1400 gallons and not the 2000+ I thought it was). It leaks at the bottom of the drain
 

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Sorry I'm late to this party but just wanted to
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Also what kind of silicone should I use to seal around the drain I installed?
I used pl roofing goop to seal around one of my pipes in the bog.
put in on a dry liner let it dry, it has held for 8 years now.

There is also silicone just for fish tanks, made to be submerged.
home depot sells some in a small tube.
 
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I used pl roofing goop to seal around one of my pipes in the bog.
put in on a dry liner let it dry, it has held for 8 years now.

There is also silicone just for fish tanks, made to be submerged.
home depot sells some in a small tube.
so pl roofing glue will work, good to know. I hear flex seal is good too. Would that not be a recommended way to go?

My other dilemma and the larger one for me is trying to remedy the 1 1/4" corrugated tube to the 1 1/4" barb fitting that leaks like a sieve. In fact it sprays. Even really tightened down the hose clamp.

The barb may not be the best, seemed awfully loose but the right size or I need a different way to connect the tubing to the pvc pipe.

So what I have going is the 1 1/2" threaded NPT reduced to 1 1/4" barbed. The pic looks like the one I have. I think.

I suppose I could purchase another. The other one I have coming from the pump is much more snug on the tubing but visually the same size.


Lastly @j.w. Thank you!
 

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It is what I used when we put a pipe through our bog liner, at the bottom. It is hard when it hardens. There may be something better. It will not stick to a wet liner, all needs to be dry.

When I have issues with barbed fittings, I use the goop method, smear with the water proof silcone, add a good clamp let it cure, done.
 
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It is what I used when we put a pipe through our bog liner, at the bottom. It is hard when it hardens. There may be something better. It will not stick to a wet liner, all needs to be dry.

When I have issues with barbed fittings, I use the goop method, smear with the water proof silcone, add a good clamp let it cure, done.
Thanks for the tip(s)
 
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disclaimer, I have never installed a bottom drain.
Neither have I. The drain I am using is for the skippy filter since a 4" inch flange was way too big for the container I am using as the filter its self. Wasn't confident enough to install a bottom drain. As nice as that would have been, I couldn't do it :D
 

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Aww for a skippy thingie................ I have used 2 inch shower drains, gooped the poo out of them with water proof silcone, tightened up, never have leaked.
 
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Hey everyone, new here but not new ponds.

I have some questions. I am redoing my 10X10 pond. Little under 3' deep but I will be redigging it to be be 3' deep. My pond sprung a semi slow leak but haven't been able to take care of it due to winter weather/snow. I have to refill or top it off frequently. Too frequently.

The current inhabitants are some Koi and Goldfish, a couple native Nevada Tahoe suckers and a 9" red earred slider.

The question I really have is regarding the Skippy DIY filter. Been wanting to do this for a few years but was afraid to mess around the pond. Well now the time has come. Unfortunately I can't find any decent youtube or image illustrations on how to accomplish this. I get the concept and want to incorporate it into a waterfall. My current waterfall is really garbage in design and prone to leaking. This is my opportunity in the coming weeks, once it stops snowing a bit to get this accomplished.
So where can I find a decent illustration of putting this together? I want to see what works. Also hard plumbing it, what is the best way to go about it. I have winters/freezes here in Northern Nevada. 4" of the snow as I write. Also what kind of tub could I use aside from a rubbermaid stock tank- an inexpensive alternative? They all seem to hover around a couple hundred bucks or is this unavoidable? I have to buy a new waterfall pump (suggestions on size and type accepted), the one I had took a crap during the summer, impeller shaft shattered. New liner is already here, .45 mil EPDM Firestone liner this time.

I would like to correct some of my original mistakes but would not like to break the bank. Already 400 in with the liner. The pump is gonna cost so I am trying to reduce material costs on the filter-stock tank if possible.

Please don't flame, I will certainly entertain all ideas. Not trying to be cheap, just trying to save some money doing this redo.

Thanks in advance
How big a filter are you trying to make I order food storage tubs from websterant.com they are made to take temps from like -30 to +140 i ordered 2 with lids 18by24by15 I think around sixty bucks.they have other sizes the white ones I ordered are fairly thick and durable
 
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How big a filter are you trying to make I order food storage tubs from websterant.com they are made to take temps from like -30 to +140 i ordered 2 with lids 18by24by15 I think around sixty bucks.they have other sizes the white ones I ordered are fairly thick and durable
Well I went with smaller since my pond is actually closer to 8.5' x 8.5'. I had forgotten we had to reduce the size due to finding water irrigation pipes when digging. I went with a Husky tub. Seems thick and I put water through it already to see how well it holds. Not sure how well it will hold with temps that do get below freezing here.
It's currently a 27 gal tub. Since the pond is 8.5'X8.5'x40", around 1500 gallons. I am hoping that would be sufficient. Ideally I want to also install a bog but that won't be till next year now. Getting too late here to start one since I am still trying to finish this pond redo. Plus I need to purchase new plants in and out and trees to go around the pond.
 
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I haven't read every reply so I may be repeating and I don't know if it's way too late but I just used a $15 garbage can to make my filter same principle as the stock tank ones. My pump is in the skimmer (made from a 5 gal pail. ) Pushes the water from skimmer to top of garbage can filter.. flow is directed to bottom of garbage can via PVC pipe and swirled as it comes out.. water is filtered on the trip back up to the top of garbage can and out two holes near the top that then feed the waterfall into the bog garden and from there over spills back into the main pond.
 
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Skippy filter has been up and running for some time but the pond is still green even with bog and tons of plants.
 
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How long is "some time". It's not unusual for a pond to take weeks to clear.
Good question. Mid april. Bog has been in since early May. It looked like it was starting to clear up and then boom, got worse. I just let it be. I don't do anything to it. I have Iris, hyacinth and lilies growing in the Skippy and in the bog have creeping jenny, iris, micro cat tail, arrow grass, canna lily, horsetails, elephant ears growing in the bog.
 

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Give it time. My pond greened up in late March. Just cleared this weekend. Pond is 10x10x5.5. 6 waterlilies in hanging baskets for plants.
 
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Give it time. My pond greened up in late March. Just cleared this weekend. Pond is 10x10x5.5. 6 waterlilies in hanging baskets for plants.
Of course. Mine is 8.5X 8.5X 40in deep. Have no choice but to wait it out and hope It clears up
 

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