Pondless Waterfall Redo

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Hey guys,

About 10 years ago I had a guy come over and install a pondless waterfall in my backyard. (see attached) After several years I believe the liner is leaking. I'm not that handy, but I can figure stuff out. I am looking for help on what I should do with this space. I have thought about replacing what I have now with something cleaner with more light. I want to use as much of the stone I currently have.

Maybe something like this? I am a total newb when it comes to this and looking for your help!




 

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The liner may be your most expensive thig but it is easy to do .Look on youtube for pondless water features .You already have the wall .The scupper coming out the top can be cheaply built by a metal person n a shop.Just show them a pick and the size of the hose ,you can also buy them premade
 
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Welcome! That's a cute little spot for a pondless waterfall. Where is the basin? I'm assuming the water didn't come over the wall?
 
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The liner may be your most expensive thig but it is easy to do .Look on youtube for pondless water features .You already have the wall .The scupper coming out the top can be cheaply built by a metal person n a shop.Just show them a pick and the size of the hose ,you can also buy them premade
Please treat me as a 2 year old. LOL I need links to what you are talking about. Getting the new liner is easy, but everything else will be difficult.
 
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Welcome! That's a cute little spot for a pondless waterfall. Where is the basin? I'm assuming the water didn't come over the wall?
Are you referring to the front wall? No, the water flows down the front.

The basin is on the right. Water flows from the left to the right where the pump is located.
 
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OK. So the easy part will be taking the current waterfall apart. Where (and why) do you think the liner is leaking?

The "scupper" is the metal weir - the part that the water is flowing out of. You can buy these premade: here's one option -

https://www.primrose.co/-p-22726.html?adtype=pla&kwd=&option=398&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0POH8oDK2QIVVlmGCh0JZAbREAQYBCABEgLa6fD_BwE

But I would consider something like this:

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I would keep it low profile and front facing, so you can view it straight on. Just an idea!
 
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OK. So the easy part will be taking the current waterfall apart. Where (and why) do you think the liner is leaking?

The "scupper" is the metal weir - the part that the water is flowing out of. You can buy these premade: here's one option -

https://www.primrose.co/-p-22726.html?adtype=pla&kwd=&option=398&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0POH8oDK2QIVVlmGCh0JZAbREAQYBCABEgLa6fD_BwE

But I would consider something like this:

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I would keep it low profile and front facing, so you can view it straight on. Just an idea!
I am looking for suggestions on the space that I have. I was thinking of possibly having two scuppers possibly going in different directions bc. the front is kind of shallow. The sides are deeper and will have less water loss. Remember, I'm a total newb with this stuff. I don't even know if that would be a good idea.

The pump would run several weeks during the summer with ZERO problems. Now, the pump runs for 5 hours and I need to fill back up with water. You can see the liner has pulled away from the brick. I had a professional come out last year and he said it was too thin. Something about the previous guy should not have done what he did.
 
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Wish I had a nickel for every time I've heard "the last guy shouldn't have done that!"

And I was referring to your existing space with my suggestions. You don't need all that much room for a small pondless. A few large rocks do so much more visually than a big pile of smaller rocks. You could literally build a small waterfall with three boulders and a handful of smaller rocks.
 
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Or what about a series of bubbling boulders as an alternative? Just throwing out some ideas here.
 
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Or what about a series of bubbling boulders as an alternative? Just throwing out some ideas here.
I need a graphic to see what you are referring to. Do a lot of ppl prefer the pondless waterfall look over the image I uploaded? What do you call that type of waterfall? edgeless?
 
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Or maybe something like this. Front leads to a basin then goes left or right? Or is that too much for that small of space? See attached.
 

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Pondless or disappearing waterfall just refers to the fact there is no pond at the end. The water disappears into the rocks which are over the underground basin where the pump sends it back to the top. You can certainly do the style you posted - I was just throwing out some other ideas. To me, the sleek style of the metal weir is more “fountain” than waterfall and doesn’t really lend itself to adding plants. So it would just be rocks and water. Totally a personal preference though!
 
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Pondless or disappearing waterfall just refers to the fact there is no pond at the end. The water disappears into the rocks which are over the underground basin where the pump sends it back to the top. You can certainly do the style you posted - I was just throwing out some other ideas. To me, the sleek style of the metal weir is more “fountain” than waterfall and doesn’t really lend itself to adding plants. So it would just be rocks and water. Totally a personal preference though!
Well, I am hoping someone can help me DIY as well as come up with a plan on what I should do with the space.
 
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It would be polite of you to at least thank Lisa for taking time to offer possible ideas for you . On this forum you will get more help if you acknowledge what is offered.
 
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It would be polite of you to at least thank Lisa for taking time to offer possible ideas for you . On this forum you will get more help if you acknowledge what is offered.
Sorry, if I was rude. I am very thankful to Lisa and everyone in this group. :)
 

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The bottom pic is his pond and the top big pic is what he is thinking of doing
 
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The bottom pic is his pond and the top big pic is what he is thinking of doing
Correct, just something more modern with light. I think those type of water falls are really cool. Maybe, I am wrong, I am looking for thoughts on the space. Thank you for your help!
 
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