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I am thinking of building a pond here in Sarasota Florida and wondering if anyone can give me some answers as to whether or not the heat here is a detriment to pond life and what challenges it adds to pond maintenance....
 
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I built on in Phoenix AZ hot hot hot, I made the pond deep (5feet) and had 2 water falls. It never climbed above 85 in the summer.
 
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I know Team Aquascape built one in St. Augustine. They did a YouTube video series about it and I think they addressed some of these issues.
 

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that's the key; make it deep, plan on having some floating plants to cover 60% of the surface (or some kind of shade sail, etc) and don't make it narrow (that is, oxygenation occurs at the SURFACE so the more you have, the better the process). Too, hot water will hold less O2 than cooler, hence why you monitor the WATER temperature. Other than that, plan on putting up some sort of gator deterrent; I hear ya gots those types of critters down there and they loves them some fish!
 
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I am thinking of building a pond here in Sarasota Florida and wondering if anyone can give me some answers as to whether or not the heat here is a detriment to pond life and what challenges it adds to pond maintenance....
I agree with the others - make sure to go *deep* in order to help regulate temperatures & keep things cool.

On a totally unrelated note - I just got back from a vacation to the Sarasota area, and my brother-in-law just permanently relocated to an area just south of there (Nokomis) Hope you enjoy your new digs. ;)
 
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I've been in the Tampa area for a year now, new pond, old fish, very new bog (yes, I love the bog). Get as much shade/ particularly afternoon shade as you can for the pond, from trees, floating plants, shade sail, pergola, and hidey spots in the pond. Netting for fly and wade in birds (knock on wood, no gator here yet). Deep is relative, but mine is 3 feet deep (high water table) and I used additional aeration for 2 months in the summer. All the fish are fine. Have fun!
 
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Did you find anyone in your area to provide assistance? I would absolutely talk with local pond owners to gather lessons learned from them. Perhaps a Koi Society or local garden center that handles pond equipment can help. The only other thing I can think of is be very cautious of safety issues if you live for example, in a subdivision with children. See @SarahT (above) for first hand help.
 
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I second what all the above said but I will stress: make sure the pond is at least partially shaded. You can leave the bog unshaded for the plants to thrive but the pond will be easier to manage temperature wise if it’s shaded.
 
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Thank you all for your advice. This group is always so willing to help which makes it VERY special:)
 
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I agree with the others - make sure to go *deep* in order to help regulate temperatures & keep things cool.

On a totally unrelated note - I just got back from a vacation to the Sarasota area, and my brother-in-law just permanently relocated to an area just south of there (Nokomis) Hope you enjoy your new digs. ;)
It sure is hot down here but I survived the Summer. It wasn't as hot as Charlottesville was in the Summer though. Red tide is a bummer...We are killing the earth....On a happier note, I won't have to put my pond up for the Winter here:)
 
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I've been in the Tampa area for a year now, new pond, old fish, very new bog (yes, I love the bog). Get as much shade/ particularly afternoon shade as you can for the pond, from trees, floating plants, shade sail, pergola, and hidey spots in the pond. Netting for fly and wade in birds (knock on wood, no gator here yet). Deep is relative, but mine is 3 feet deep (high water table) and I used additional aeration for 2 months in the summer. All the fish are fine. Have fun!
The guy who might be building my pond (I am 69 yo woman that feels 79 and can't do what I used to) says that it can't be deeper than 2 1/2 feet because of the ground water level here....He says that the hiding spots, moving water, and plants will keep it from getting too warm.... How deep is your pond SarahT?
 
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The guy who might be building my pond (I am 69 yo woman that feels 79 and can't do what I used to) says that it can't be deeper than 2 1/2 feet because of the ground water level here....He says that the hiding spots, moving water, and plants will keep it from getting too warm.... How deep is your pond SarahT?
Just read that yours is 3 ft deep….
 

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The guy who might be building my pond (I am 69 yo woman that feels 79 and can't do what I used to) says that it can't be deeper than 2 1/2 feet because of the ground water level here....He says that the hiding spots, moving water, and plants will keep it from getting too warm.... How deep is your pond SarahT?
you could make it 2.5' deep into the earth and 2' above with some creative designing (i.e. either footing, cement blocks+cement+rebar, or very well fastened 6x6s; a lot depends on your overall design).
 
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The guy who might be building my pond (I am 69 yo woman that feels 79 and can't do what I used to) says that it can't be deeper than 2 1/2 feet because of the ground water level here....He says that the hiding spots, moving water, and plants will keep it from getting too warm.... How deep is your pond SarahT?

you could make it 2.5' deep into the earth and 2' above with some creative designing (i.e. either footing, cement blocks+cement+rebar, or very well fastened 6x6s; a lot depends on your overall design).
That is actually a great idea brokensword....I will discuss it with him and see what we can come up with (pun:)
 
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Again, shade is key. There are many ways to shade a pond. Look at it this way… you would fee cooler if sitting in the shade compared for the sun. Apply this concept to a pond.
 
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3 feet deep (high water table)
That is a blessing and a curse but manageable..
Like most of Florida there is high water table. Meaning you don't have to dig very deep to find water. Not this is q Huge benefit to a hot climate its air-conditioning from below. The water down 3 or 4 feet will be very much cooler then the air temp so don't build the pond up if you find water . You will however need to provide an escape for the water to get out from under the liner. They do sell perforated pipe like 1" that is secured side by side with a couple other pipe this gives the water a escape from under the liner andprevent the hippo. Those pipes need to come up to the surface and preferable piped or allowed to run away from the pond.
 
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That is a blessing and a curse but manageable..
Like most of Florida there is high water table. Meaning you don't have to dig very deep to find water. Not this is q Huge benefit to a hot climate its air-conditioning from below. The water down 3 or 4 feet will be very much cooler then the air temp so don't build the pond up if you find water . You will however need to provide an escape for the water to get out from under the liner. They do sell perforated pipe like 1" that is secured side by side with a couple other pipe this gives the water a escape from under the liner andprevent the hippo. Those pipes need to come up to the surface and preferable piped or allowed to run away from the pond.
You are always such a huge help to people GBBUDD and it is greatly appreciated. I will put a lot of thought into this so that I don’t run into problems later…still trying to get used to the Florida temp/lifestyle after living in the Adirondack mountains for 25 years then a small stint in Virginia. When I see ponds like yours (your walk around your pond video was awesome!) it makes me want to move back up North.
 
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You are always such a huge help to people GBBUDD and it is greatly appreciated. I will put a lot of thought into this so that I don’t run into problems later…
You have come to the right place. Lots of really nice members who all want to help.
still trying to get used to the Florida temp/lifestyle after living in the Adirondack mountains for 25 years then a small stint in Virginia. When I see ponds like yours (your walk around your pond video was awesome!) it makes me want to move back up North.
This January and February instead of digging out of a Lake Placid snow bank you will be basking in the warm Florida sunshine!
 
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You have come to the right place. Lots of really nice members who all want to help.

This January and February instead of digging out of a Lake Placid snow bank you will be basking in the warm Florida sunshine!
This is true…I survived the summer here this year but honestly don’t know if I can do it again, although even the Northern summers can be unbearable !
 
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This is true…I survived the summer here this year but honestly don’t know if I can do it again, although even the Northern summers can be unbearable !
That's why you should envision yourself with LPS and make it LARGE enough so you can swim in it. I mean, fishies don't nibble THAT much!!! Just ask @addy1 ! :p

All bets are off though if you get a snapper; should see the video of addy scooting out of the pond when THAT happens! Course, in your case, you'll have to fend off the gators, too, I imagine...! :love:
 

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