Raccoons Got Me

Discussion in 'Pond Archive' started by ~ jan, Jul 13, 2008.

  1. ~ jan

    ~ jan Guest

    The raccoons were really lucky last night. I've been easily distracted this
    summer, and yesterday wasn't feeling that well plus dealing with family
    visitors to boot.

    Got up yesterday morning to TWO raccoons in my yard. One had gone up my
    olive tree as the neighbor's dog was barking at it, the other ran across
    the yard to another neighbor's. I knew there were 'coons in the area, but I
    didn't know we had two. Neither had touched the ponds that day, but I guess
    they were just casing the joint that morning for a night raid.

    Then my (human) visitors came and by the time evening rolled around I'd
    forgotten the (4 legged) visitors. DS told me sprinkler was on, what he
    didn't know was I've been turning it up higher during the night. He had it
    on the day setting.

    So it was the 'coons' lucky night, the sprinkler, I assume, didn't go off
    as they were on the far side of the pond, my biggest fish decided to sleep
    under the lilies on the shelf, as other than that lily going to the bottom,
    nothing else was disturbed. Not a rock in the pond, nor any of the
    ornaments sitting on that side of the pond, dropped in the water. :-(

    So today the 2nd sprinkler will be put in place on that far side and we
    will be more diligent about setting them. If there is evidence of their
    return, HOT WIRE will be installed.

    Other than a king fisher taking goldfish, that I foiled with lots of fake
    fish, this is the first koi I've lost to a predator. She was one of my
    oldest, definitely the biggest & prettiest of the bunch of course. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 13, 2008
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    Reel McKoi Guest

    "~ jan" wrote in message
    They always take your prettiest and favorite fish. It's enough to make you
    want to buy a shotgun.....

    Frugal ponding since 1995.
    rec.ponder since late 1996.
    Zone 6. Middle TN USA
    ~~~~ } ~~~ }
    Reel McKoi, Jul 13, 2008
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    Apr 17, 2008
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    Hamilton Ontario Canada
    Sorry to hear about your loss Jan. The worst is when you get up in the morning, go to feed your fish and find each and every one of them laying on the lawn with their heads chewed off!
    Meekaboo, Jul 13, 2008
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    D Kat Guest

    "~ jan" wrote in message
    .....> Other than a king fisher taking goldfish, that I foiled with lots of
    Deep sympathy and empathy Jan. Donna
    D Kat, Jul 13, 2008
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    JB Guest


    Sorry to hear this. My experience with "coons" is similar to my experience
    with squirrels in that once they find a source of food they will keep
    returning. And, no matter what you try they, will always come up with a
    "work around".


    "~ jan" wrote in message
    JB, Jul 13, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    Sorry to hear this. My experience with "coons" is similar to my experience
    I'm hoping not. Course I feed the squirrels and lately I've found their
    numbers diminishing since I changed to very few peanuts mostly sunflower
    seeds. Perhaps they've found a better source? Works for me.

    So far two nights without an obvious visit from the masked critters... but
    I've heard it can take them days to go full circle on their territory.

    The first raccoon visit I ever had back in 2000, made a mess of the pond,
    but other than scraping the fish didn't get any. Put the motion sprinkle up
    and never had a problem till now. So I am worried that they've been "fed".
    Cars are their only predators around here I'm afraid. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 14, 2008
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    JB Guest

    Can I give you my water moccasin to keep them away? ;-)

    "~ jan" wrote in message
    JB, Jul 15, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    If it's trained to stay away from me and only attack raccoons, I'd consider
    it. ;-) ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 15, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    And something else I forgot. DH has been using my baby monitor as a one way
    radio while working outside taking down a tree. Of course it never got put
    back so I could listen to the pond area, another lucky for the raccoons
    that night. Currently it is back in place. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 15, 2008
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    "~ jan" wrote in message
    My experience is that just as you begin to relax again, they return. At
    first sign of a raccoon visit, I get out my trap, and then when they do
    return, I trap one after another and relocate to a local park in the
    Rockies. After a few weeks of cartching nothing, I place the trap back to
    the garage.

    John Darnielle
    Zone 4b
    , Jul 15, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    I must be slow to relax. :-\

    They were back last night. I was up at 4am to do a check. Only way I knew
    they were back was one plant was at the bottom. Nothing else disturbed, no
    fish taken. I think that 2nd sprinkler scared them off as they weren't
    expecting that. Since it looks like they came from the street side rather
    than the backyard we've got a new surprise for them. A 3rd sprinkler that
    will hit them as soon as they come under the gate.

    What do you bait your trap with, and don't you catch a lot of neighbor's
    cats? ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 16, 2008
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    ~ jan" wrote in message
    Never a cat or squirrel. I bait the trap with an impossible to resist
    concoction of blueberries, ketchup, saltine crackers and peanut butter. :)

    I use to try sleeping next to the window, then when they made the
    characteristic "trilling" sound I would wake up and dash out the back door
    at them like some kind of scary beast and watch them scamper up a tree. I
    would then hose them down with the hose, but a few nights later they would
    return, the whole family. The trap solved that. I would catch one after
    another, they never seemed able to avoid the trap or learn from their
    recently trapped brethren. Been doing this for 5 years now, they seem to
    strike every other year.

    John Darnielle
    , Jul 17, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    How about a skunk?
    I had someone send me a picture of 2 raccoons at her pond. Best guess she's
    2 miles away from me. Same ones? Can't say, but it got me looking into what
    was legal here. Apparently we _can_ trap them w/o a permit, but you can't
    let them go, unless your property is quite a few miles wide. I guess you're
    expected to kill them, something else one can do legally if they're
    destroying crops or domestic animals.

    And.... as I continued reading, even after 8 years of the sprinkler working
    for me, they can get use it and the best suggestion.... not nets, but hot
    wire. We went to the local ranch & home and gathered supplies.

    One more night of hoping the 3 sprinklers hold them off. Son will work the
    wire and then I'm baiting it with peanut butter on tinfoil. No accidental
    touching, but full mouth contact. OUCH! I know I'll sleep better... at
    least tomorrow night. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 17, 2008
  14. ~ jan


    A skunk would be a disaster, never caught one. Can they climb a board fence?
    Hmnn. I suppose I'd try to throw a blanket over the trap, with a slit in the
    blanket so I could grab the top handle, then somehow transport the trap to a
    truck bed for its ride out to the country. Then a bath.

    Let us know how the electrical trick works!

    John Darnielle

    "~ jan" wrote in message
    , Jul 17, 2008
  15. Wire, tinfoil and peanut butter work wonderfully for deer. Good luck
    with coons.

    Phyllis and Jim, Jul 18, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    Nope, skunks are lousy climbers, they prefer to dig under if they can. So
    you're safe.
    My son & husband were telling me that myth busters did a test with caged
    skunks, apparently they wanted to collect the spray. ??? After 13 skunks
    they gave up, as none would spray. I'm quite sure if I caught one, it
    would... isn't that how it goes, when you don't want it to happen?
    Will do. DS did a wonderful job, neat and hardly noticeable, and total cost
    was only $55 w/tax. Cheaper than a motion sprinkler. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 18, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    Yes, I couldn't remember who said that. Tx Jim. I figured I'd rather have
    them sniff & lick the wire, not get full body contact... or be reaching in
    the pond that the fish get zap at the same time. (Not sure how far they can
    reach.) ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 18, 2008
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    ~ jan Guest

    I decided to add one more thing for the raccoons, marshmallows stuck to the
    peanut butter. ~ jan
    ~ jan, Jul 20, 2008
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