I totally forgot to introduce myself yesterday and just started posting well I'm in my 1st year of ponding and enjoy it a lot I tell everyone at work that I made a garden pond and they think I'm crazy because I usually just talk about racing my utv and things like that and they think it's some kind of old person thing to do I enjoy it because its kind of relaxing and now we enjoy the gazebo that is in are yard more we use to never go out there and now we like to check out the pond and hang out there after just kind of jumping into the hole pond thing not knowing allot about it and checking this forum out like all day yesterday I'm going to redo the pond make it bigger and build one of the 55gal drum filters that you all have on here I have 3 koi that started off being about 3 inches and now are like 7 I think and 4 feeder gold fish that are like 2 inches or so now the pond is around 600 gal or so will make it around 1500 next year hopefully