To drain or not drain trash barrel bog filter

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Hi all! I am committed to turning off my bog filter/waterfall for the winter (in fact, I have already done so).

I am somewhat uncertain as to whether I should now drain the bog filter as much as possible or leave the water in there. The bog filter is a 40 gallon Brute trash barrel. It is heavy duty. My concern is whether or not ice expansion could cause cracks and subsequent leaks in the trash barrel. The trash barrel is half buried in a mound of dirt and is 2/3 full of rocks (big ones on the bottom, then medium, then pea gravel. I would guess that once the rocks are taken into account, there might be 20 gallons of water in there now. There is a milk crate at the very bottom with a 4 foot high PVC pipe sticking out of it--i.e. there is a void space so that it is easy for me to stick a pipe down to suck out the water if I wish.

I am leaning towards draining it (I figure the worst case scenario is that I am back to ground 0 in the spring in terms of beneficial bacteria in the bog, though honestly given the fact that it can be seeded from the pond, it should be better than it was when new this spring). But before doing so, I do want to see what everyone thinks. Thank you in advance!

Edit: I'm Zone 6 (B?) in the US. So nighttime temps average about 30 F, daytime 40-45 in winter. But we do get some cold weeks where we are 30 F during the day and 10 F at night for 5-7 days. I.e. the barrel water will ice to at least some extent at some point. (I'm going to run a heater in the pond on the cold nights)
 
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(as an aside for anyone thinking of doing a bog filter in the future, the trash barrel bog filter worked wonderfully--crystal clear water all summer, with the sole exception of a day or two when the pump got clogged. I will note that the Brute barrel I used is made out of the same stuff as some pond liners, which helped with piece of mind in terms of worrying about toxins being introduced from the barrel)
 

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Draining your bog will probably kill off any plants you have in there as they will dry out. I have 2 bogs. One is a box built from wood, the other a stock tank.
So far I have not shut down the pumps but if we do get some really cold weather, they will get the pumps shut down.
 
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We used a 55 gallon barrel as a sand and gravel filter for our koi pond. We drained it and blew out the lines for winter ... one year we forgot and some pipes froze and cracked.

When we had our bog, we shut off the pump, but left the water in the bog....it was a liner bog.

We live in SW Ohio and get cold snaps.
 

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Thanks to both of you! There are no plants in the bog (or maybe I should use 'bog'), as the top is covered by rocks to disguise the barrel. So no worries there. I will likely just drain out the water.
 
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(as an aside for anyone thinking of doing a bog filter in the future, the trash barrel bog filter worked wonderfully--crystal clear water all summer, with the sole exception of a day or two when the pump got clogged. I will note that the Brute barrel I used is made out of the same stuff as some pond liners, which helped with piece of mind in terms of worrying about toxins being introduced from the barrel)
Rubbermaid brutes are a polyethylene and are fish safe. However imo it is a far better choice to make a bog using epdm..
 

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Rubbermaid brutes are a polyethylene and are fish safe. However imo it is a far better choice to make a bog using epdm..
I suppose it depends on use/need/finances for a small project like this one--the trash barrel is really all I needed/wanted for this project, though perhaps I will eat my words if it leaks within the next year or two!:LOL:
 
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plastics generally do beater/ last longer when protected from uv . rubber maid brutes are among the best.
 

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plastics generally do beater/ last longer when protected from uv . rubber maid brutes are among the best.
This is what I read as well re UV. The barrel is mostly covered with rock/buried, so hopefully its exposure to UV is relatively low.
 
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Oh beware of hitting it in the winter as well as they can cracks very easily when they get cold. Only time I remember loosing a barrel in 40 ears of construction
 

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