Trying to educate myself on best pond setup has made me more confused


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Wow! That's much better than what that guy quoted me. Hmm... maybe I won't do concrete, render and pond paint. Thanks for the tip!
 
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thing is, IF the pvc liner DOES fail, I wouldn't want to be the one having to dig up all them rocks and whatnot and then re-lining it, sooooooo, my vote is exchange it. And there should be some better prices out there--don't accept one salesman's word that liners have doubled in price. Think I paid $1100 for hdrpe, 40x30' back in 2019. And HDRPE is cheaper, lighter, and tougher than epdm. Jus' sayin' :cool:

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Now that's a pond! Do you have pictures of it on this forum?
 

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Now that's a pond! Do you have pictures of it on this forum?
that was the size of the liner; the pond is approx 20 x 14'. Showcase is here;

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If there's one thing I am good at is getting under peoples skin. But in this case @brokensword I am in total agreement with codes and money etc bull sht. Trust me what I may say here to someone may have a disclaimer to protect my azz because I trust NO ONE and as you yourself have seen time and time again what is commonsense for the two of us is definately not so for some of the posters here on the forum . So if I give advice on something I know could be an issue for code I'll say give a check with your area. It sure as he'll doesn't mean I did. But I have been a builder my entire life. So like your self I would not ask permission in my house too install a French drain. But when Joe shmoe come in and says they want to put a pond against the house that could be a big problem quickly depending on tge lot and soils.
This was the first I saw a little of myself in your words high five
 

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If there's one thing I am good at is getting under peoples skin. But in this case @brokensword I am in total agreement with codes and money etc bull sht. Trust me what I may say here to someone may have a disclaimer to protect my azz because I trust NO ONE and as you yourself have seen time and time again what is commonsense for the two of us is definately not so for some of the posters here on the forum . So if I give advice on something I know could be an issue for code I'll say give a check with your area. It sure as he'll doesn't mean I did. But I have been a builder my entire life. So like your self I would not ask permission in my house too install a French drain. But when Joe shmoe come in and says they want to put a pond against the house that could be a big problem quickly depending on tge lot and soils.
This was the first I saw a little of myself in your words high five
heh, rebel brothers to the core, then? I tend practical and like you, see more agenda in government than protection. I DO think there was a good intent initially, in protecting people from flim flam (an actual title and something prob only us oldsters can remember) men way back when. I know there's unscrupulous peeps in the skills industry and thank God my dad did a lot himself and I learned too. Would never have even thought of building my own house without his example. And of course, best practice is to get references so you know the person working on any part of your house/life, is not going to deliberately mess you up.

Being able to do most everything certainly has it's advantages but not when it comes to city building departments. At least not where I live. I'm sure it's more lenient outside the burbs and city, though. I admire those that live there and adhere to taking care of things themselves AND helping neighbors in need. A very lost bit of culture in this day and age, imo, where even I don't know a lot of my immediate neighbors. When I was a kid, I knew everyone on both sides of the block and most behind. Times sure have changed.


But I echo your words; you SHOULD know the codes even if it's to insure someone else doesn't create a problem for you.


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hmm, didcha miss, GB? I don't see a reply, just my own post in your 'reply'!

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In my area the towns and cities all want you to pull a permit to change the color of your walls to paint or paper. I say gfy. in the last 30 years we have gone from where the government works for the people to the government wants to rule the people . Bad idea for sure.... kid rock just did a tag team song with a group called monster truck a group i never heard of before . now the song is even a bit rough for even my self but i get the point to the song "Ain't no body going to tell me how to LIVE"
 
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I would be willing to bet your town building codes might have something to say about the house foundation being part of the pond.

You came to the right place for ideas.

TAKE SOME PICTURES OF YOUR AREA this will give others get a real feel of your project and not what they interpret from your words. my pond build is a bit long but can be found here

My Pond build can be seen here ---> https://www.gardenpondforum.com/threads/going-for-it-phase-one-12-000-gallon-pond.22563/
 
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In my area the towns and cities all want you to pull a permit to change the color of your walls to paint or paper. I say gfy. in the last 30 years we have gone from where the government works for the people to the government wants to rule the people . Bad idea for sure.... kid rock just did a tag team song with a group called monster truck a group i never heard of before . now the song is even a bit rough for even my self but i get the point to the song "Ain't no body going to tell me how to LIVE"
Yeah like everything else... it's a good idea gone bad. We pulled a permit when my husband built our addition, it costs a couple hundred bucks. The guy barely looked at anything when he came out. He did ask for load calculations along with our plans and never really looked at those either. We wonder if he really knew how to check them. Hee hee
Craig (husband) is not green around the gills (pun intended) with construction and macgyvering, just with fish ponds.
 

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