want / need to install Pond bottom drain and Skimmer.

Discussion in 'Pond Archive' started by Dude, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. Dude

    Dude Guest

    Hello all,

    Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.
    I'm wondering if anyone has used something from Lowes / Home Depot or
    what makes a little more since to me is using parts for a pool.
    if you can pont me to some DYI website of this stuff I would
    appreciate it.

    BTW my pond is not very big. It's about 5' wide X 4' long X 30" deep
    While I have it all pulled apart to do this I'm going to dig it
    deeper.
    I have a few Pics of it up on http://picasaweb.google.com/chris.holub

    Cheers,
    Chris
    Phoenix AZ
     
    Dude, Aug 24, 2007
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  2. Dude

    Hal Guest

    On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:21:00 CST, Dude wrote:

    >Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    >skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    >simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.


    Want cheap on a bottom drain? Using EPDM liner, simply cut the hole
    1" smaller than the pipe and shove the pipe through from the bottom,
    leaving a lip on the water side to press against the pipe. Some have
    tried a clamp around the lip, but it isn't necessary.
    --
    Hal Middle Georgia, Zone 8
    http://tinyurl.com/2fxzcb
     
    Hal, Aug 24, 2007
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  3. Dude

    RichToyBox Guest

    Look at the 4 inch bottom drain at
    http://www.koivillage.com/pond_accessories/drains_and_skimmers.html. It
    seems to be reasonably priced.

    --
    RichToyBox
    http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
    Zone 7A/B Virginia
    "Dude" wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hello all,
    >
    > Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    > skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    > simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.
    > I'm wondering if anyone has used something from Lowes / Home Depot or
    > what makes a little more since to me is using parts for a pool.
    > if you can pont me to some DYI website of this stuff I would
    > appreciate it.
    >
    > BTW my pond is not very big. It's about 5' wide X 4' long X 30" deep
    > While I have it all pulled apart to do this I'm going to dig it
    > deeper.
    > I have a few Pics of it up on http://picasaweb.google.com/chris.holub
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Chris
    > Phoenix AZ
    >
     
    RichToyBox, Aug 26, 2007
    #3
  4. Dude

    ~ jan Guest

    On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:21:00 CST, Dude wrote:

    >Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    >skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    >simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.
    >I'm wondering if anyone has used something from Lowes / Home Depot or
    >what makes a little more since to me is using parts for a pool.
    >if you can pont me to some DYI website of this stuff I would
    >appreciate it.
    >
    >BTW my pond is not very big. It's about 5' wide X 4' long X 30" deep
    >While I have it all pulled apart to do this I'm going to dig it
    >deeper.
    >I have a few Pics of it up on http://picasaweb.google.com/chris.holub
    >
    >Cheers,
    >Chris
    >Phoenix AZ


    Hi Chris,

    There use to be a great DYI website at
    http://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm

    But he had so many things, he decided to go into business and put them on a
    CD and sell it for a small price (well worth it). You might want to
    purchase it, the website explains some of the stuff that is on the CD, from
    bottom drains, skimmers, my favorite the pipe boot similar to what Hal
    explained. We used donut holes of liner over the pipe, clamped and another
    donut liner to cover the clamp. ~ jan
    ------------
    Zone 7a, SE Washington State
    Ponds: www.jjspond.us
     
    ~ jan, Aug 27, 2007
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  5. Dude

    Chip Guest

    Dude wrote:

    > Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    > skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    > simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.


    > BTW my pond is not very big. It's about 5' wide X 4' long X 30" deep
    > While I have it all pulled apart to do this I'm going to dig it
    > deeper.
    > I have a few Pics of it up on http://picasaweb.google.com/chris.holub
    >
    > Cheers,
    > Chris
    > Phoenix AZ
    >

    I live in Tempe and planning to convert my pool into a pond. Did you
    DIY or have a contractor do it? How do your fish handle the heat?

    Chip
     
    Chip, Aug 30, 2007
    #5
  6. Dude

    Dude Guest

    On Aug 27, 11:31 am, ~ jan wrote:
    > On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:21:00 CST, Dude wrote:
    > >Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    > >skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    > >simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.
    > >I'm wondering if anyone has used something from Lowes / Home Depot or
    > >what makes a little more since to me is using parts for a pool.
    > >if you can pont me to some DYI website of this stuff I would
    > >appreciate it.

    >
    > >BTW my pond is not very big. It's about 5' wide X 4' long X 30" deep
    > >While I have it all pulled apart to do this I'm going to dig it
    > >deeper.
    > >I have a few Pics of it up onhttp://picasaweb.google.com/chris.holub

    >
    > >Cheers,
    > >Chris
    > >Phoenix AZ

    >
    > Hi Chris,
    >
    > There use to be a great DYI website athttp://www.geocities.com/bickal2000/pond.htm
    >
    > But he had so many things, he decided to go into business and put them on a
    > CD and sell it for a small price (well worth it). You might want to
    > purchase it, the website explains some of the stuff that is on the CD, from
    > bottom drains, skimmers, my favorite the pipe boot similar to what Hal
    > explained. We used donut holes of liner over the pipe, clamped and another
    > donut liner to cover the clamp. ~ jan
    > ------------
    > Zone 7a, SE Washington State
    > Ponds:www.jjspond.us- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Thanks Jan,
    I acctually did find this site a few weeks back. He does do a good job
    of explaining some stuff. I hope to incorporate some of it as soon as
    it cools off enough here to start the deconstruction and rebuilding.

    Cheers,
    Chris
     
    Dude, Aug 31, 2007
    #6
  7. Dude

    Dude Guest

    On Aug 29, 4:41 pm, Chip wrote:
    > Dude wrote:
    > > Like the subject says I would like to install a bottom drain and a
    > > skimmer. What I'm having a problem with is paying so much for such
    > > simple devices. I think they are quite over priced.
    > > BTW my pond is not very big. It's about 5' wide X 4' long X 30" deep
    > > While I have it all pulled apart to do this I'm going to dig it
    > > deeper.
    > > I have a few Pics of it up onhttp://picasaweb.google.com/chris.holub

    >
    > > Cheers,
    > > Chris
    > > Phoenix AZ

    >
    > I live in Tempe and planning to convert my pool into a pond. Did you
    > DIY or have a contractor do it? How do your fish handle the heat?
    >
    > Chip


    Hey Chip,
    Well when I first moved into the house the Pnd was there, except it
    was only the size of a 50 Gal drum laid on its side. I loved it and
    decided to take it all apart and keep digging to what you see today in
    the pics. I think its now about 300 - 400 Gal. So far what you see is
    what I have figured out on my own and with the advise of others.
    Im amazed but the water temps get to 90F and the fish survive. If your
    going to convert your pool then the temps should be much better.
    Good Luck,
    Chris
     
    Dude, Aug 31, 2007
    #7
  8. Dude

    ~ jan Guest

    On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:41:38 CST, Chip wrote:

    >I live in Tempe and planning to convert my pool into a pond. Did you
    >DIY or have a contractor do it? How do your fish handle the heat?
    >Chip


    If you haven't, check out this website on pool to pond conversion:
    http://kilk.com/pond/ ~ jan
    ------------
    Zone 7a, SE Washington State
    Ponds: www.jjspond.us
     
    ~ jan, Sep 1, 2007
    #8
  9. Dude

    Chip Guest

    ~ jan wrote:
    > On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:41:38 CST, Chip wrote:
    >
    >> I live in Tempe and planning to convert my pool into a pond. Did you
    >> DIY or have a contractor do it? How do your fish handle the heat?
    >> Chip

    >
    > If you haven't, check out this website on pool to pond conversion:
    > http://kilk.com/pond/ ~ jan
    > ------------
    > Zone 7a, SE Washington State
    > Ponds: www.jjspond.us
    >

    Thanks Jan. I took many interesting ideas from this project the last
    time you recommended it. My own conversion is on hold because of the
    blasted heat. A full month of over 110F. Nuts. I can't drain the
    pool to start construction because the heat could crack the cement w/o
    water. So I gather info and keep planning. Maybe by Oct the weather
    will abate and I can actually get something done.

    Chip
     
    Chip, Sep 1, 2007
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  10. Dude

    ~ jan Guest

    On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:21:21 CST, Chip wrote:

    >Thanks Jan. I took many interesting ideas from this project the last
    >time you recommended it. My own conversion is on hold because of the
    >blasted heat. A full month of over 110F. Nuts. I can't drain the
    >pool to start construction because the heat could crack the cement w/o
    >water. So I gather info and keep planning. Maybe by Oct the weather
    >will abate and I can actually get something done.
    >
    >Chip


    Oh, you're down in that area of the country. I am so feeling for you.

    July was our amazingly hot month, usually it is August. It was miserable
    and to worry that August might be the same... thankfully it was not. At
    least this late into summer, if we do have a hot day, it at least cools
    down to comfortable by sunset, and windows open soon after.

    Hoping some cool weather comes your way soon. Winters aren't too bad down
    there though, correct? ~ jan
    ------------
    Zone 7a, SE Washington State
    Ponds: www.jjspond.us
     
    ~ jan, Sep 1, 2007
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