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hi all,

just wondering peoples thoughts on having 2 koi spitters instead of a waterfall? 2000L volume, existing waterfall is being fed by pressurised 5000 filter and a unknown sized pump at minute but looking to get hozelock cascade 4000 pump soon, would 2 spitters be enough to replicate same water movement or would i need 3 or more? would i have any problems if i have wrong size pump or any other problems ppl can come up with? or just buy another waterfall to replace damaged one?
 
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what do you mean by " buy another waterfall" is this a preformed one?

I would always say a waterfall as they are just so pretty, but it all depends on how big your spitters are pipe size ect.
 
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the current one is damaged (stainless 3oomm shelf) i agree, love a waterfall for the look and sound but just thought i would see if there was an alternative using spitter/s. i should say ive been having some issues with getting the waterfall to run correctly recently before and after fitting a external clarifier and when trying to sort it out i made it worse ha ha nothing that i cant fix if i buy another waterfall tho (i think or could be my pump not strong enough too)
existing waterfall is fed 32mm pipe, (rest of my pipes are 25mm) the spitter i been looking at only seems to have 12mm which is why i posed the question of having 2 or more and having the correct splitters and adapters or would i cause a problem with this type of setup
 

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the current one is damaged (stainless 3oomm shelf) i agree, love a waterfall for the look and sound but just thought i would see if there was an alternative using spitter/s. i should say ive been having some issues with getting the waterfall to run correctly recently before and after fitting a external clarifier and when trying to sort it out i made it worse ha ha nothing that i cant fix if i buy another waterfall tho (i think or could be my pump not strong enough too)
existing waterfall is fed 32mm pipe, (rest of my pipes are 25mm) the spitter i been looking at only seems to have 12mm which is why i posed the question of having 2 or more and having the correct splitters and adapters or would i cause a problem with this type of setup
I would say a spitter could definitely oxygenate the water, but if we are looking at hose sizes, I would do three, this is because three would combine to a 36, just slightly larger than the 32 that you have now :) although you wouldn't get any filtration benefits from them (if you do with your waterfall )
 
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thanks for ur quick replies, no filtration benefit on waterfall at the minute, my only thinking/ worry is that pump wont be strong enough for 3 if its struggling, but i could just take 3rd one off :) just of out of interest what problems could i cause if i only used 1 spitter (extreme case and i wont do this but would like to know dangers to look for if poss) would it cause damage to pipes/filter/pump or would it just be too much pressure in spitter and causing a watery mess everywhere?
 

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If the pipe cannot handle the water volume coming from the pump, you will end up with a burnt out pump much faster, and if this is the main form of water movement for the pond, you could have low oxygen issues. I’d say try for three, if the pressure isn’t enough, take one off.
 

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thanks for ur quick replies, no filtration benefit on waterfall at the minute, my only thinking/ worry is that pump wont be strong enough for 3 if its struggling, but i could just take 3rd one off :) just of out of interest what problems could i cause if i only used 1 spitter (extreme case and i wont do this but would like to know dangers to look for if poss) would it cause damage to pipes/filter/pump or would it just be too much pressure in spitter and causing a watery mess everywhere?
what jamie said, it could end up with a burnt out pump, and just one probably wouldn't put enough oxygen into the water. two could work, and you could just start with that, and if needed add another one :)
 
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Are the spitters going to be connected to a filtration system?
So pump will feed water to the external clarifer via 25mm pipe (around 2m away) , from there go to my pressurised filter( 25mm pipe 1m long) then from filter to whatever puts water back in the pond ie waterfall or spitters (currently water fall that has 32mm pipe about 500mm long but needs shortening if keeping it)
 

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