Waterfall to disappearing basin idea?

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    If you see in the photo I have the upper waterfall basin. The enclosed lower basin is pricey so I was thinking of trying to place a disappearing water basin covered by rocks. The waterfall basin is 2' round what is the ideal size for a disappearing fountain basin? Thanks
     

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    Can't see why it would not work if it was sealed to hold water .I have seen people here who go to restaurant supply store's and buy those big huge salad stainless steel bowls .
     
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    Are you saying that you want to replace the pricy basin? In any case the size would be dependent on the flow of the water that needs to be stored before it is pumped out. It needs to be able to hold all the water from the upper basin plus what ever water the rocks would displace. Or the pump needs to be able to pump a small enough amount of water that it won't over flow the top basin with too much water. It doesn't have to be complicated just add a valve to do some adjusting. The worst that will happen is that the bottom basin will over flow until it has just the right amount of water.
     
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    Your basin should have a minimum capacity of 1.5 times the capacity of the planter depending on elevation of the planter in relation to the basin.
     
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    what do you think my elevation should be?
     
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    Will it be viewed close up as on a patio or at a distance like across the yard?
     
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    It will be near a patio where you can view it close up or from sun porch about 15' away.
     
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    No more than one (1) foot elevation would be needed to provide the desired effect. What size pump are you planning on using?
     
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    I'm going to remove this tree and plan on the basin and waterfall here. One foot drop and what size basin and pump do you recommend thanks
     

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    As I posted earlier the reservoir basin needs to have at least 1.5 times the capacity of the upper basin. Do you know the dimensions of the upper basin?
     
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    to bad, that tree looks so nice & natural there!
     
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    10" tall until the water will hit the waterfall and 24" wide.
     
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    Since it just needs a foot waterfall drop I might move it to this area near the step in the middle of the picture where it looks a bit bare.
     

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    No more than a 300 gph pump.
     
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    What size disappearing waterfall reservoir 10" by 24" but I dont know the amount of water it holds?? also what if I decide to add rock?
     
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    Per the manufacturer's website 10" x 24" is the external dimensions. What is needed is the inner dimensions of the scupper basin. Some quick calculation reveals that his could vary from 9 to 18 gallons. I am guessing it is close to the lower number. If you add rocks to this scupper basin it will proportionately reduce its capacity. If you place the same amount of rocks as shown in the posted photo, I am going to guessimate a maximum capacity of 5 gallons of water. Since this is only a guessimate, i would recommend no less than a 20 gallon reservoir for added insurance.
     
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    Atlantic manufactures very reliable quality products.
    I would recommend that you go with the FP-400. This will provide about 300 gph at the waterfall. I would also shop around a little bit. You may be able to find a better price on both the reservoir and the pump from a pond supply dealer.
     
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    Thanks the basin I selected should work I'll shop around for both thanks
     
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