Winter Feeding

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    barryian

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    Been traveling a lot and back. Actually been working on the pond in this cold winter. I was wondering what thoughts anyone might have on this.
    My pond maintains a 50F water temp all winter. Maybe on those previous 5F days, it dropped to 45F but mainly is 50F. Though I've been doing this 25 years, I was wondering if feeding once here and there ( non protein ) would be a problem. Skimmer runs but bio is drained. I check ammonia, pH, kH, nitrites etc during winter and add baking soda to keep up kH. So, all is well and these boys and girls are specimens of health. Sometimes they're just hanging 4ft down and sometimes swimming around slowly if the sun is bright and shining on the pond.
    Not sure who is familiar with Manda Fu but it's a non protein based almost treat like food. Think it could hurt??? Probably would take 3 -4 days to digest at 50F but I'm probably thinking at 50F, they might need some nutrition since the pond isn't in the 30's with ice and a hole.
    Thoughts? Thanks all!
     
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    never change anything that works .I only feed after pond gets to 55 degrees steady for at least a week .If your fish are healthy why risk upsetting the system that works
     
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    Sissy makes a good point, but I don't think a little (on a sunny day when they're interested ) would harm them as long as your filtration can handle their waste
     
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    My thoughts were they're at 50F and haven't eaten in 2-1/2 months. Filtration that is running won't be affected
    by a carb snack. Biofilm also should be good at that winter temp maintained. I was just wondering about the koi
    at that temp .... I don't think it could hurt either. We're in for 55-60F on Thursday & Friday ...
     
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    "Right on. I have yet to see a post 'i fed my fish and its guts rotted and it died'. "

    I remember that comment made me laugh the first time I read it, and it made me laugh again. Thanks for linking us back to that one @MitchM - I appreciated "hearing" from @Meyer Jordan again on the subject!
     
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    Believe me fish have eaten as there is lots of stuff to eat in the pond that also helps clean the pond come spring and you will be glad you waited
     
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    It's been written many times but I've also yet to see it happen. Fed the fish 2-1/2 hours ago. They came up and slowly gobbled up the Manda Fu ... I wouldn't make habit out of it in 50F water temps. Probably made me feel better than the koi! Lol ...
     
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    @barryian most koifoods as long as they are wheatgerm can be fed at temperatures as ow as 7c but only on a occasional basis like once every week or two the fish themselves will let you know just drop one or two pellets into the pond and if they start to take add a handful ad leave it like tat for a week or two.
    The food we use is a specialised that goes by the name of Medicarp for this purpose , as for bulstering Ph and Kh have you ever thought of buying Lythaqua by a company called Kusuri .
    What is Lythaqua ??? well its calcified Seaweed it is fantastic at holding the Ph and KH of the pond it comes in a lage sealed bucket with to bags and the Lythaqua which will be enough to last you about three to four years


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    I've been enjoying observing the winter/spring activities in my pond. Things are going to start really waking up, since we have temps in the high 60s and low 70s. With sunny days here and there (and no leaves on the trees) the algae is starting to grow. In the area where the waterfall current is strong, I have a nice crop of string algae going. The fish have a funny way of eating it -- they grab and then yank! At first I thought they were having problems out there, being all herky-jerky. But no. Just snacking! I wondered too about giving them a tiny bit of food - just to keep them social. But they seem to be doing great with the stuff that's already in the pond!
     
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    Thanks again Dave!
     
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    If they are hungry they will eat.... just ease them into it. Don't do it heavy yet.
     
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    Our water is still hovering around 40 to cold to feed. The fish are slowly swimming around, no floaters.
     
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    I would worry about ammonia and ph .Test your water to make sure of these things
     
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    Thanks Sissy been a 25 year ponder. Not concerned about ammonia from one feeding with skimmer running all winter @50F ... Was concerned about food in their stomachs of which they're fine. They really woke up. Water temp now 55F due to ild temps ... March is coming!
     
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    Oh no, I had no intention of a routine feeding in February on LI. Just wondering about thoughts with 50F water temp and if the water temp was actually too high all winter without food. They loved the small amount I gave them and ate slowly. Their coordination and aim is even off in trying to get the food in their mouths....lol ... The next day they were swimming around the top like it was summer. Food gave them a boost. Down into the 20's tonight. Here we go again :) ...
     
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    The warm weather has really woken my fish up. One of the koi wanted to eat something dangling from the net stretched over the pond and jumped clear out of the water today. Twice. The fish in general have been very, very active, and the only thing that is keeping me from giving them a snack is the algae I want them to eat first.

    On this point, my pond started to get a little foamy in the late afternoon. I thought, It can't be...it's February. That stuff doesn't start until June. But since my fish count more than quadrupled in one year, I wonder. I mean, it can't be starting already, can it? The air temperature here hit in the mid-70s today and might reach 80 tomorrow. The fish were active already, so I don't know what else could explain the sudden, low-level foaming. I could be in for a very long year.
     
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    Have seen the same starting yesterday .The water is up to 62 degrees
     
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    I need to get my thermometer back in the water. It's 78 right now, and the temperature is still rising. Maybe my big fish will start eating some of the little fish. I don't know them well enough yet to regret the loss should it occur. And I know they'll get replaced soon enough in any event.
     
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