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8. consider creating a bog - im not sure what that is and how to do it. I will try that if above items don't yield results.
lol add a bog!

I only filter with a bog, water stays perfect. They are easy to build easy to maintain, just yank excess plants.

I can turn my pond on in the spring and totally ignore it all summer if I need to, and the water stays perfect.
 
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Hi all. I just wanted to give an update regarding my pond. I posted previously that I had issues with pea soup water. You all gave me great advice. I took your advice and have basically minimized my approach and have done little more than make sure the pond is clean of debris. i am happy to say that after a few months the pond has all of sudden become clear. I was thrilled the other day when i hadn't seen the pond in a couple of days and low and behold i could see the bottom. I am thrilled. Thank you so much for saving me time and, especially, money. I will be adding new plants soon. I was wondering, when should i add fish? I currently have about 15 gold fish about 2inches long each. I would like to get some bigger fish. Nothing crazy but it would be nice to have some bigger fish.
 

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mother nature knows what to do as long as we do not interfere with her job and make it harder on her .Glad you are getting great results
 

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I just read this thread. My question is have you been overfeeding? Pea soup means there are too many nutrients in the pond. How much do you feed?

Don't bother adding beneficial bacteria. There is no such thing that you can buy to add. You need good water flow. You also don't need that algae controller. Decreasing nutrients will get rid of your algae pea soup.

And are you cleaning your mechanical filters? How much media do you have in your Aquascape Signature Series BioFalls 6000? When I inherited my pond, it took me years to figure out the previous owner never put any bio balls in my filter. It was just 4 pieces of mechanical filter.

You may need to check the mechanical filter in your skimmer too. These mechanical filters in your


skimmer and biofalls should be cleaned once every 1-3 weeks depending on bioactivity in your pond. They will sieve out all the solids floating in your pond.

You can definitely have more than 15 two inch fish in a 2000g pond. But add them in slowly, not more than 1-2 a time and probably not bigger than 6 inches.

(If you decide to really get into this hobby, I would recommend getting rid of your filters later. They are all pretty much useless. It's much easier and better to build your own simpler filters, which will work a lot better and will be easier to maintain.)
 
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I took your advice and have basically minimized my approach and have done little more than make sure the pond is clean of debris. i am happy to say that after a few months the pond has all of sudden become clear. I was thrilled the other day when i hadn't seen the pond in a couple of days and low and behold i could see the bottom. I am thrilled. Thank you so much for saving me time and, especially, money.
This is one of my favorite things to read! Nature works if you let her! If we could only get this message out to every new pond owner - save them time, worry, and like you said - cold hard cash!

Remind us - what zone are you? If you are getting ready for a cold winter, I would wait until spring to add fish.
 
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I live in California. East of San Francisco. it gets moderately cold in the winter. Sometimes below freezing but not often. Should i wait until spring for plants and fish?
 
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I just read this thread. My question is have you been overfeeding? Pea soup means there are too many nutrients in the pond. How much do you feed?

Don't bother adding beneficial bacteria. There is no such thing that you can buy to add. You need good water flow. You also don't need that algae controller. Decreasing nutrients will get rid of your algae pea soup.

And are you cleaning your mechanical filters? How much media do you have in your Aquascape Signature Series BioFalls 6000? When I inherited my pond, it took me years to figure out the previous owner never put any bio balls in my filter. It was just 4 pieces of mechanical filter.

You may need to check the mechanical filter in your skimmer too. These mechanical filters in your


skimmer and biofalls should be cleaned once every 1-3 weeks depending on bioactivity in your pond. They will sieve out all the solids floating in your pond.

You can definitely have more than 15 two inch fish in a 2000g pond. But add them in slowly, not more than 1-2 a time and probably not bigger than 6 inches.

(If you decide to really get into this hobby, I would recommend getting rid of your filters later. They are all pretty much useless. It's much easier and better to build your own simpler filters, which will work a lot better and will be easier to maintain.)

Thank you so much for your reply. I clean out my skimmer filter once per week at the least. Sometimes more often. I stopped feeding the fish a long time ago and stopped added the beneficial bacteria. I pretty much took a minimalist approach and the pond has now come full circle and clearing which makes me so happy. I changed out the Biofalls filter this past year with the clean out.
 
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San Francisco - cold? No. Haha! Try Chicago cold!

I think you'd be fine to add fish, but remember before you start adding that your current herd will likely grow on their own - both in numbers and in size. And if you are able to buy plants, they'll be fine too. Nurseries wouldn't sell them now if you couldn't plant them now.
 

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I live in California. East of San Francisco. it gets moderately cold in the winter. Sometimes below freezing but not often. Should i wait until spring for plants and fish?
I live in WA state. I stop feeding at 55F (water temp with a temperature gun). I won't add fish now because they won't be able to eat until Spring and I'm afraid new fish might not be able to make it without food. In CA, you might be able to feed for a little bit more to let them build up some food reserves, of course all dependent on your water temp.

I forgot to mention, I don't see that you mention water changes. For my pond, I do it once in a while. In the fall onwards, it's pretty easy here because it rains so much so I just let Mother Nature rain, then pump a little bit out.

Glad your pond is doing well now!
 
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Commet, common, and I believe shubinkin grow to about a foot long once they reach adult status. I don’t know what kind you have, but those three make a nice mix, with similar body shape that means they can all swim same speed to reach food. Mixing them with fancy tailed variety would mean the fancies with their round bodies that swim slower won’t get as much food. Most bait fish goldfish are commet/ common. This picture shows an adult swimming by some 2-4” babies, that’ll give you an idea.
 

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