old unused swimming pool turned into a pond?

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    cateyes221981

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    Hello

    The ancient swimming pool in my yard turned itself into a pond over the years. Ducks visit it daily and a frog lives in it came by himself from somewhere? its about a meter deep in the deepend?

    I was thinking is there anything i can put in the pond to make it nicer? i was thinking some giant snails to eat the algea and maybe soem tadpoles minnows etc.. Id like to attract herons maybe?

    Let me know! Thanks
     
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    you'd LIKE to attract herons? LOL! That would be the first time I heard a pond keeper say THAT! LOL!

    Give us some photos, dimensions and such.
     
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    its a total normal backyard cement pool hmm maybe i can take some pictures but ive seen these pools are pretty standard look alike for pools all over the country? rounded has a deep end and a shallow end?

    I thought herons in the pond would be beautiful i see them nesting near by i wish they would land in my yard? The ducks spend the whole day here every day and just leave at night. I actually just moved int this house so i wonder if the pond will dry up in the summer? its a meter deep now!
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    HERONS better your yard than mine!! EVERYONE on this forum would gladly send their local herons your way!!
     
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    how do u guys get them? only ducks land in my pond the herons fly by but never land :(
    i wish they would
     
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    koiguy1969 GIGGETY-GIGGETY!!

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    let them see a $100.00 koi in the pond ...they'll stop!
     
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    LOL!!! yes, just leave the koi's price tag firmly around it's neck and the heron will undoubtedly come!

    Seriously, these birds are considered the ultimate nightmare pest for us fishkeepers. The minute you put one single fish in the pond, they will be guaranteed to find you.

    They may be majestic birds, yes, but boy do they wreak havoc on pond life.
     
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    well i do not think i will get something as expensive as a koi what about minnows and tadpoles? would that be a better choice? How do the herons know i dont have any fish in there? do they need a brightly colored fish like a koi to realize that they should stop?
     
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    ok someone wants to sell me tree frog tadpoles says they are native is that a good choice? I just want to buy some giant snails also to help with algea and mybe get some native plants ? floating lillies?
     
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    the heron will sit above your pond and see what's in there and just go fishing. Of course, goldfish and koi are brightly colored and certainly attract them.

    I don't buy tadpoles, the frogs just come each spring and a few weeks later I have hundreds and hundreds of tadpoles. I don't personally like snails in a pond because if any of them die, they just pollute the pond.

    Do you have any filtration on this pond and do partial water changes every week or two? If not, the algae won't go away...
     
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    would goldfish or koi survive in a pond like this? no filter? its just a bunch of deep standing rain water?

    I was thinking of maybe adding a type of native turtle?
     
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    If you don't circulate the water, you will have a health hazard and more mosquito than you want. Adding a bio filter is cheap and can be inline with the pump.
     
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    The short anser is no. No animal would survive in water like that. This is why you have water ridden with algae.

    It's a captured body of water, and water in those conditions will just go stale. Think of it as a dog in a kennel which you never clean because the dog is pooping in it. You may be doing the right thing and feeding him, but the dog would soon be in peril sitting in it's own filth.

    If you want animals in that pond, you need to maintain it. Otherwise fill it with dirt and turn it into a planter.
     
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    In West KY we call Herons "Swamp Chickens" and they are quite skittish. My pond is close to the house and I've never had a problem. The hawks on the other hand are absolutely brazen.
     
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    so is there any way to maintain the pond (circulate the water)and make it live able other then using a filter? LIke adding plants maybe? I just wanted a natural looking pond with a few animals i guess just like those small ponds with still standing water u see out in the woods sometimes.


    what about using pond algea remover?
     
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    those ponds you see in the woods are not "standing" water. They filter naturally...water comes out of the ground to form the pond and filtration is happening. Natural ponds aren't stagnant, nor are they faced with concrete or a liner. We are trying to "mimic" a real pond, but in order to do that successfully, you have to filter it as it is a body of captured water, AND you have to do partial water changes.

    Plants help a bit, but not enough to sustain life. If you just want to do no filtration, you can throw some plants in; and then just expect that your water will always be pea green and soupy. You will get mosquitos, so I would use those mosquito dunks you find at home depot. I would not put any fish in something like this. Not fair to the poor fish, who was not destined to live in a non-filtered concrete tank of unkept water.

    Chemicals like algae remover will not be useful without water changes. You're wasting your money. Your water is green because it is not filtered properly and maintained to proper levels.
     
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    I can see how one would like to have herons until they have fish they cherish. If you like the herons and are not much into the fish thing I would go buy a bunch of feeder goldfish. Throw about 40 in and the population should maintain itself and they will grow fast. The bright colors should attract the herons too. I would also build in some cinder block benches with a stone slab on top for the herons to stand on. Benches should be no more than 12" under the water. They like to stand in the water. Good luck and I bet you will have herons before you know it.
     
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    yeah id love to do that and get some herons in my yard but the guys here said that its not fair and might be a health hazard even if i put a bunch of plants in it? Wow the ducks love this dirty pond so much i dont know why they live in it we have a river near heere yet the ducks wanna hang out in this thing lol


    someoone said they will give me a bunch of tadpoles i wanted to add them in just to attract fish eating birds but i dont wanna risk my health?? If this is safe id do it.

    remember its an old swimming pool so it goes from shallow to deep so the herons can wade in the hallow end just getting their feet covered if they wanted?
     
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    Without filtering I don't think I would do it. If you don't ever want it to be a swimming pool again there are plans out there on how to convert it. You basicly seperate the pool via a wall and have one side be your filter and the other side be your pond. Seen some very nice set ups.

    Concrete and Rubber lined ponds is not like nature at all and you have to add filtration to mimic what soils, plants, and rain runnoff does for natural ponds. If not, your pool will turn septic and it wont be pretty or smell good.
     
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    yeah the thing is we probably want to change this into a real pool one day lol

    I guess no herons :( :( :( :( :(
     
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