Building a DIY Pond Filter

Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
Hi All -

I have a close friend who just purchased a house on Long Island with an existing pond. The size is 23' x 11' x 18" depth averaging about 15" ... Tough to estimate but probably 1700 - 2000 gallons.

So it has one of the tiny clogged Tetra filters with a worthless Tetra UV low voltage. The pond is soup and the fish are thriving. Testing the water, all parameters are amazing good with no pH buffer.

SOOO - She can't afford to do my setup with GcTek Alpha One bio filter, pre-fillter, maindrain and so on ... So I told her I build something more cost effective. I'm using a poly 55 gallon drum with a removable cover, 3 bulkheads, 1-1/2" input with a gravity fed 2" return. All the piping, various media and 2 Matala cut filters are no brainers but here's the QUESTION:

She wants to spend $'s on a good UV so I am using an Aqua UV 50 watt with 2" input and output. I run the same on my system. I swear by them.

Being the UV naturally always goes at the end return to the pond and this is gravity fed, can the UV go before the 55 gallon drum or do you think being it's 2" going back to the pond, it will easily gravity feed through the UV at the end ???

T H A N K S SO M U C H !!!! :) >>>
 

sissy

sissy
Joined
Jan 17, 2011
Messages
33,086
Reaction score
15,702
Location
Axton virginia
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7A
Country
United States
drums if they overflow it could be a disaster in the making .I went with lava rock and stock tank and tank adapter and my tank is inside the liner and used sump pump hose on my pumps .Much easier and somewhat worry free
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
drums if they overflow it could be a disaster in the making .I went with lava rock and stock tank and tank adapter and my tank is inside the liner and used sump pump hose on my pumps .Much easier and somewhat worry free

I was going to put an overflow line at the top from another bulkhead back to the pond ... There will be a ball valve on the intake to adjust the flow. I was also thinking of a layer of lava rock as one of my 3 layers and the 2 matala's up top.

BUT BASICALLY, I'm looking for answer to the UV and if it will gravity feed being it is a 2" line.
 

sissy

sissy
Joined
Jan 17, 2011
Messages
33,086
Reaction score
15,702
Location
Axton virginia
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7A
Country
United States
thing is water must go through the uv slow to be effective .Gravity flow not sure how fast the water would move through it
 
Joined
Sep 29, 2010
Messages
343
Reaction score
159
Location
South carolina
Hardiness Zone
8a
Country
United States
We use aqua UV too and love them. You need to make the UV last to the pond AND set up a bypass and only radiate a portion of your water. It will work just fine. We have done this for years. The problem with a U V is that the flow rate past the tube must be something like 440 gph in order to be effective. If you need more flow to run your pond for turnover, then you will either overflow your filter (not good) or run water so fast past your bulb that it doesn’t do anything. The UV needs both time and proximity to penetrate the algae nucleus and kill the cell.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
We use aqua UV too and love them. You need to make the UV last to the pond AND set up a bypass and only radiate a portion of your water. It will work just fine. We have done this for years. The problem with a U V is that the flow rate past the tube must be something like 440 gph in order to be effective. If you need more flow to run your pond for turnover, then you will either overflow your filter (not good) or run water so fast past your bulb that it doesn’t do anything. The UV needs both time and proximity to penetrate the algae nucleus and kill the cell.

Thanks as I'm aware of that. Been ponding 27 years and this is setup for a friend who can't currently spend big $'s. As long as the UV accepts the water flow, I'm good. I could do a bypass ( good idea ) to divide flow and slow it down. Thx ... Question: I wanted to attach the Aqua UV to the canister and do a neat job. Wondering if the UV can mount vertical on 55 gallon canister and still fill via gravity?
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
And make sure the electrical converter is elevated above the bulb chamber. I made that mistake.

Thanks as I'll keep it horizontal. In my Alpha One bio from GcTek, vertical or horizontal isn't a problem as it fills right up being a pressure filter but gravity as this one I'm making is could be a problem vertical as you said. Thanks much!
 
Joined
Sep 29, 2010
Messages
343
Reaction score
159
Location
South carolina
Hardiness Zone
8a
Country
United States
Thanks as I'll keep it horizontal. In my Alpha One bio from GcTek, vertical or horizontal isn't a problem as it fills right up being a pressure filter but gravity as this one I'm making is could be a problem vertical as you said. Thanks much!

Welcome. Could you tell us a little about your gctek filter’s performance. I tried to research it and can’t get the company to answer the phone listed on their website. I ve called four times to no answer or callback. I’m specifically interested in the cleaning rate for maintenance and fines removal. They aren’t using beads. Our ultima II may not be delivering the performance we expect.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
Welcome. Could you tell us a little about your gctek filter’s performance. I tried to research it and can’t get the company to answer the phone listed on their website. I ve called four times to no answer or callback. I’m specifically interested in the cleaning rate for maintenance and fines removal. They aren’t using beads. Our ultima II may not be delivering the performance we expect.

Hi - Gary Cryer owns GcTek and he's hard to reach ... Use this email ( (e-mail address removed) ) and you'll probably have better luck. I did a few modifications to the Alpha One 2.5 but I've been using it since 2012 on a 2000 gallon dedicated koi pond pond and I love it. I also have the gray pre-filter on their site, a main drain and a Savio skimmer with a Uvinex aside from the 50 watt Aqua so I'm running on overkill. I'm a bit unclear when you say fine removal ??? As far as ammonia and nitrites, I've never had a problem except last year when I had a triple spawn within 2 weeks. Ammonia took about 2-3 weeks to get under control again. I backwash it with the blower usually every 10 days. I was away for 2 weeks in June and my wife fed the koi, did no maintenance and just had her swap out Savio filters for me. Water is quite clear but again, I'm running many extras. https://aquabead.com/alphaone-250-filter/alphaone-250-filter-from-gctek .... Can't understand why he doesn't call back though. (405) 258-5551
The media I've used is the Alpha Bio 1 since 2012. I asked him about changing it last year and he insists there's no reason to.

I had left the blower on all summer and the inside became rusted from condensation and humidity. I asked Gary what the story was on that and he sent a new blower free of charge. I took it apart and cleaned it up. Now I have 2. I just pop the blower on when I use it every 10 days or so. I also put a Jandy valve below the blower. This way, there's a failsafe if the spring check valve should go. I use a 2" cap pvc when the blower isn't being used. Hope that helped ... Tried uploading a video but for some reason, the site didn't accept it.

All in all, it works quite well ....
 

sissy

sissy
Joined
Jan 17, 2011
Messages
33,086
Reaction score
15,702
Location
Axton virginia
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7A
Country
United States
my new filter.no more splashing water for the wind that always blows here to splash the water all over the outside of the pond
100_4342.JPG
the hose coming out is for a pump in the bottom to pump it out when cleaning
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
my new filter.no more splashing water for the wind that always blows here to splash the water all over the outside of the pond View attachment 113820the hose coming out is for a pump in the bottom to pump it out when cleaning

I'm using a black 55 gallon covered poly drum modified version of the pic with an aqua 57 watt UV attached to side... there will be a 4th port on top for a failsafe overflow back to pond.
FILTER SCHEMATIC.png
 
Joined
Sep 29, 2010
Messages
343
Reaction score
159
Location
South carolina
Hardiness Zone
8a
Country
United States
Hi - Gary Cryer owns GcTek and he's hard to reach ... Use this email ( (e-mail address removed) ) and you'll probably have better luck. I did a few modifications to the Alpha One 2.5 but I've been using it since 2012 on a 2000 gallon dedicated koi pond pond and I love it. I also have the gray pre-filter on their site, a main drain and a Savio skimmer with a Uvinex aside from the 50 watt Aqua so I'm running on overkill. I'm a bit unclear when you say fine removal ??? As far as ammonia and nitrites, I've never had a problem except last year when I had a triple spawn within 2 weeks. Ammonia took about 2-3 weeks to get under control again. I backwash it with the blower usually every 10 days. I was away for 2 weeks in June and my wife fed the koi, did no maintenance and just had her swap out Savio filters for me. Water is quite clear but again, I'm running many extras. https://aquabead.com/alphaone-250-filter/alphaone-250-filter-from-gctek .... Can't understand why he doesn't call back though. (405) 258-5551
The media I've used is the Alpha Bio 1 since 2012. I asked him about changing it last year and he insists there's no reason to.

I had left the blower on all summer and the inside became rusted from condensation and humidity. I asked Gary what the story was on that and he sent a new blower free of charge. I took it apart and cleaned it up. Now I have 2. I just pop the blower on when I use it every 10 days or so. I also put a Jandy valve below the blower. This way, there's a failsafe if the spring check valve should go. I use a 2" cap pvc when the blower isn't being used. Hope that helped ... Tried uploading a video but for some reason, the site didn't accept it.

All in all, it works quite well ....

fines are those annoying small negatively buoyant brown waste products that can cause cloudiness in the water and decrease visibility. they can start to accumulate at the output into a waterfall and on the bottom. the plastic biofilm filter tubes just don't suppress them like glass bead filters do. my plant sumps help but we still have occluded water to a degree, and i'd like to clean it up. i'm installing some northern tool oil drum sieves in my plant sumps and hopefully that will suppress the fines in the water but there is also the possibility of using a gctek unit in addition. our ultima filters have the chemical waste issue covered as well as solids discharge. its the little stuff that is a problem.
 
Joined
Sep 3, 2013
Messages
639
Reaction score
299
Location
Long Island, NY
Showcase(s):
1
Hardiness Zone
7b
Country
United States
fines are those annoying small negatively buoyant brown waste products that can cause cloudiness in the water and decrease visibility. they can start to accumulate at the output into a waterfall and on the bottom. the plastic biofilm filter tubes just don't suppress them like glass bead filters do. my plant sumps help but we still have occluded water to a degree, and i'd like to clean it up. i'm installing some northern tool oil drum sieves in my plant sumps and hopefully that will suppress the fines in the water but there is also the possibility of using a gctek unit in addition. our ultima filters have the chemical waste issue covered as well as solids discharge. its the little stuff that is a problem.

I hear ya! I have that off and on, more so this year for some reason. I have zero algae as my phosphates are nil and I could use plants like I had years ago but when I rebuilt in 2012, I made it dedicated koi without shelves. Then I'll backwash and hose the savio filter and it clears. Should have made shelves. Koi are too big to even float hyacinth in baskets anymore as they pull them out and make a mess. Life's a bi_ch, hey! Should be the worst of our problems. I'd have to say, after defining the fines, the Alpha One doesn't remove it all.
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Members online

Forum statistics

Threads
30,780
Messages
508,557
Members
13,042
Latest member
lucaryan

Latest Threads

Top