Nutrient for bog plant

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    MitchM

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    Instead of focusing right now on which nutrients are available for your plants, make sure your water PH is suitable for your plants to help them absorb what nutrients are available.
    Usually a PH of 7.0 or below is best.
    Which plant species are you thinking of?
     
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    This might be a bit off topic but I figure its better than starting a new thread for a quick n simple question.
    With your bog filters do you guys pump water from the pond depths into the bog cycling the water through or is the bog static?
     
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    I pump directly into the bog. My pond pump pulls water about a foot off the bottom of the pond and sends it into the bog via 2 2 inch pvc pipes laid under the pea gravel with slots cut into them. It is my only filter, I never get green water or string algae, in the fish filled ponds. The small slow flow warm ponds get string, but still no green water. I leave the string for the critters, the bees use it as a landing pad to drink water.
     
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    That's awesome, I have just started reading the bog building thread and realized that that is what I made for my turtle pond, I guess I just never knew what its called.
    It also seems like a great way to build a low energy pond, having zero head (not that my turtle pond is as it has a waterfall) would mean you could use much smaller pumps.
    I'm wanting to dig another pond in front of my turtle pond for my goose, my dog and the wildlife to play in, no fish just some open water and lots of plants, rocks and logs, I'm thinking I'll need a big bog area to deal with the goose waste and keep the water clean enough for the local frogs to breed.
     
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    I’m new to this site and this is probably a dumb question but can someone explain what a bog filter is?
     
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    We use the term "bog" rather loosely, only because it's easier than saying "planted wetland filter" or "vegetative upflow filter". But basically as @addy1 described, a bog filter is comprised of water being forced up through gravel that is planted at the top with a variety of water loving plants. The gravel acts as both a planting medium and a place for beneficial bacteria to colonize. The plants remove nitrates from the water. The bog filter is nature's way of completing the cycle.
     
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    Thank you for this article. Very helpful! I saw the sketches attached to the article of different types of bogs, but do you happen to have any pictures of one under construction or even a step-by-step diagram? We are in the design/digging phase of our very first pond, and are looking to build a small (8x8) fish pond. If I want a waterfall in the pond, that would be a second pump, correct?
     
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    The PVC pipe is NOT filled with gravel, right? The water pumps through the PVC, and filters through the gravel bed where all the nice plants live? (please forgive the stupid questions).
     
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    correct there is no gravel in the pvc.
     
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    Imagine a hole, any shape any size, bigger is better. Depth 18 inches to deeper. Mine is around 25% or more surface area of the pond.

    Place pvc pipes on the bottom, 2 inches is best, make holes or cuts into them. Mine run the length of the bog, two pipes 26 feet long.

    Cover with pea gravel, I used 38000 lbs, but mine is huge! Plant, sit back and enjoy your pond.
     
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    Thank you!
     
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    Mine is also 2.5 feet deep, sort of just kept digging. Draw your water from mid depth or lower just not off the bottom. That way you don't draw in a lot of debris that can clog the gravel.
     
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    How deep is the rest of your pond? I was thinking 3 feet for the pond and 18 inches for the bog. We started digging today (sore doesn’t quite cover it!) and our initial small 10x8 pond is now 16x12.
     
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    My hubby bought me a tractor for our first wedding anniversary. Our land is nothing but layers of shale. I went crazy digging! Also had to build a dirt berm to make a level spot for the pond.

    My pond ended up being 5.5 feet deep, the bog around 2.5 feet deep. I made it deep for the winters here. The bog is deeper than it needs to be, but it sure takes good care of the pond.

    The pond and bog are both 27 feet long.
     
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