Changing from pond to bog garden?

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by bazza456, Nov 28, 2011.

  1. bazza456


    Nov 28, 2011
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    Dear Waterbug,
    You are bang on - I am a lazy gardener so 'minimal effort' is key to this project. I really like nature to show me the way whenever possible. For example, a couple of years ago I was able to buy a piece of land alongside my house which I have turned into a wildflower meadow which most of the year pretty much does its own thing!
    I have decided that I will remove the liner as you suggest but my last question is - when is the best time of year to do this?
    Thanks again for all your advice,
    bazza456, Dec 5, 2011
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  2. bazza456

    HARO Pondcrastinator

    Jun 30, 2011
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    Ontario, Canada
    Waterbug; A couple of times now you have referred to the Marsh Mallow as a tree; what do you base this on? Althea officinalis grows to about 4' in height, and is not woody, but rather herbaceous. Could there be a mix-up in identification?
    HARO, Dec 5, 2011
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  3. bazza456


    Apr 10, 2010
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    Phoenix AZ
    Bazza, text is a hard way to understand ideas, glad we're getting closer to understanding what you're after.

    I don't know your climate well enough to answer on timing. But in general I don't much care for most guidelines I hear. Planting an annual a week before frost is probably not a good idea of course. I think it depends on the plant. For example there are lots of time guidelines for planting trees...but what difference is there between the tree being in the ground or in a pot at the nursery? I plant them any time of year, frozen ground excluded, and water accordingly.

    I'd remove the liner as soon as you like. I don't see any advantage not to. Sooner it's gone the sooner the soil beneath will get back to doing what it does naturally. Even if you don't plant you'll get to see how much water this spot will hold, give volunteers a chance and you could toss in some seeds to see what happens.

    For the most carefree wild look I'd limit the kinds of plants to 1 or 2 kinds. If left on their own 20 kinds would probably become 1 or 2 in a few years anyways. My best guess would be cattails in the center. They have the best chance of staying in the center and hopefully not take over the yard. Not sure how much rain you get. Cattails could be planted any time the ground isn't frozen, but optimal would be spring. Most common Canna, not the true water Canna, normally can't over winter in standing water. But that's hit and miss and in your case Canna might short themselves out water level wise. Kind of vernal pool-ish.

    John, yes, you're right. I had to look it up and looks like Swamp Mallow is a more often used common name for Hibiscus moscheutos, which is what I was referring to. When I first learned of these plants people called them Marsh Mallows and it stuck in my head. But it looks like Marsh Mallow a more often used common name for Althaea which is not the plant I've been referring to.

    I call them a tree when pruned to tree form. Left on their own I'd call them a shrub. I also like, Hibiscus syriacus for pruning into tree form.
    Waterbug, Dec 5, 2011
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