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Add some lilies, they will grow well.
 
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Being in Virginia, it looks like I don't have any restrictions for floating plants.

Will definitely look for and add some! Any specific type or place to purchase?
 
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Any nursery that carries pond plants will have water lettuce or water hyacinth - the two most common. And a water lily would be beautiful too, and help with shading the water.
 
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Making progress! Found a good local shop and had our water tested (they said it was perfect), got 6 fish, four more bog plants (2 corkscrew rush, 2 violet stemmed taro), and three hyacinth.

The hyacinth are way cooler than I expected!

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Hey everyone. I have a new question. Now that it’s been below freezing the hyacinths day water lettuce are dying/dead. Should I remove them? Or leave them? Not sure what’s preferable!
 

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Remove them, they will rot and stink up your pond. Makes good fertilzer for your garden plants. @sissy lives in Virginia and I think she may have tried once to winter them over inside her house one year or maybe it was someone else. Oh well.
 
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I have over wintered them for almost 8 years now .Fresh water and a aerator and fertilizer and a fish tank is all I use . I did learn over the years to bring the young ones in and only bring 2 or 3 plants in because they will produce babies .But last year instead of just water I used the hydroponic clay balls and had better success .This year I am trying a stock tank outside full of them and seeing if they drop seeds like they did on my lily plants in my lily pond .
 
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From looking at your original photo i would be willing to bet that the water was wicking over the edge of the pond . You do keep the water level very high toward the top of the containment. a single strand of dead anything can absorb water and it can add up. i have seen where my rubber is folded over upon it's self and the water has wicked up and over the lip of the pond. if you have three or four inches from the waters surface to the top of the containment you should have no issues.
 

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I can’t comment on pumps (mine come from Home Depot, so no idea how they compare), but want to throw this out there. If you do have fish, you WILL have algae and that is perfectly normal! There is really no need to fret about and try to remove it. It’s just a part of the pond’s ecosystem. Your plants are going to help with that. You don’t have to clean your pond (as in drain and scrub it down), and you don’t need to add chemicals (or even bacteria). After you’ve been at this a while, you’ll learn YOUR pond (no 2 ponds will ever be alike!), and you’ll find that you are much more “chill” about what used to seem so daunting!

Have fun! It’s a great hobby! Oh, and in case no one has told you yet......small ponds turn into bigger ponds, and bigger ponds, and bigger ponds....
 

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I looked for the most energy efficient pumps .Electric rates will never go down and also looked for the longest warranty .I ended up with laguna pumps but now they make even better energy saving ones .Mine came with a 4 year warranty which has long expired
 
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Though water lettuce does not flower it is also very cool floating plant especially if you have lights underwater. they have such long roots they real are wild as the float by the lights
 
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So I was having issues with it leaking over the back of my bog, and as mentioned the pump didn’t seem to be strong enough.

But before I got a new pump I needed to address the big problem and so today I dug in, what a muddy mess! The root systems had basically blocked the water flow, I think they put dirt in it when they built it.

I pulled out all of the root balls and dug out as much of the mud as I could, getting all the way down to the rubber liner. Seriously, what a mess.

Then without the rock and plants in it I filled it back up to ensure that the output side was lower than the back wall. And while the back of the bog was lower, the output point is lower and water flowed well.

I have the pump output hose stuck pretty deep in the rock at the back of the bog and then put back the plants and rock, seems to be doing well now. I could probably move up to a better pump to increase the flow and not worry about the issue I was having before.

Will this murky water clean up pretty quickly?

(I need to get more pea rock...)View attachment 121041View attachment 121042
Here's mine after I first got the bog flowing, In less than a week water was clear:
 

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I planted my bog with an Iris, Bog lily, some Blue eyed grass, (native to my area, and dug up in the yard) and a triple thing that I got from home depot, varigated celery/something/something, and another plant. The varigated celery took over, and caused problems late in the season. It had grown, and put out roots, and runners with roots, and caused an over flow seepage in the bog, But the water was filtered very well. Just have to stay on top of the growth of those creeping plants. ;) But they do a good job of filtration. I also used my bog for rooting cuttings. I rooted several plants by simply sticking the cutting in the gravel, and walking away. One of them actually bloomed, while my back was turned.
 

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I yank a ton of plants off and on during the summer, they can and do take over. The way I built mine I have a 27 foot wall between the bog and the pond with a 3 foot water fall rock. If the bog gets overwhelmed with plants and the water can not make it to the waterfall rock it starts to weep over the rest of the wall. Saves the bog from overflowing into the yard.
 
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Ok, so I bought the Laguna PT-8120 and it's working fine, but the filter on it sucks. https://www.azponds.com/product/laguna-fountain-and-statuary-water-pond-pumps-660-gph/

I want to flip over to either a submersible filter or an external (?) filter...

Anyone know how I can do that with the Laguna that I have? And, any preference to submersible vs external filtration? My bog is not filtering well enough on it's own. I did get some Hyanciths for this year, but right now the pond is producing excess greenery at the moment! :(
 
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Pictures pictures and more pictures A bog can most certainly do the job all on it's own it depends on the size of it per gallon of pond fish load. how many and the types of plants. This time of year the plants have not really begun to thrive or just started depending where you are. Alot of folks have string algae and green water this time of year . PONDS REQUIRE A LITTLE PATIENCE AND TIME. sorry for caps
 
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Pictures pictures and more pictures A bog can most certainly do the job all on it's own it depends on the size of it per gallon of pond fish load. how many and the types of plants. This time of year the plants have not really begun to thrive or just started depending where you are. Alot of folks have string algae and green water this time of year . PONDS REQUIRE A LITTLE PATIENCE AND TIME. sorry for caps
The main reason for the pre-filter is because the one that comes on the pump is broken. The little dial that you turn to change the flow rate is gone, so stuff is going straight into the turbine. The secondary reason was just for easier maintenance and cleaning. :)
 

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