PondMutt Land Between the Rivers Tenn.

How nice you folks are .. so far .. .. BTW i did not get a 5 K rescue in , just a 3K.. , .it is quite the long story .. it starts in Korea , on the DMZ , last century .. i was shipping back and wanted a pond/ stream .and in that dirty hole with a troop . . this sergeant i worked with had degree in aqua-culture / unable to find stream , unable to find pond ..soo...
well maybe the story starts earlier .. all those years overseas. one can not build property equity overseas ..
... iam just happy i did not crap in my messkit so far as this forum is concerned ,,do you understand the vernacular i hope .
open new string .. i think DIY would be proper

 

what a terrible time i am having .. 1000 keystrokes in explanation and then one misstoke and i was all gone ..

it is quite upsetting to me to catch these fish .. i expect it s quite upsetting to them too,

 

i like to let these guys rest for a couple days or more be fore steesing them . \ i think they might be smaRTER THAN WHAT YOU THINK.
had to reaLLY SNEAK UP ON THIS BIG GIRL
netted out a big fish .. 2 foot of meat .. ,, one will not catch such fish with a net on a stick.. , 32 by 16 foot area to run .. and this is an old fish and smart . ..
fast fish ..
cast net [ what a big noise when the final cast caught ] .
i think the measure WAS 24 inch fish[ measure meat not fin] 9 inches deep . did not get a width measure ,, whats this fish weigh
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where was i at , where am i at .. // i crammed couple morebags of media in the stock tank , .. did a flow measure .[ to insure accuracy need ti di x 10 ,
but on first examination the draw down judgement seem ti be accurate..
flowing about 3 K thorough the stock tank ,,

NO DISTRESS SEEN FROM FISH

 

i am sorry i write so stream of conscious ..
i will try to do better ,

 

If this is your stream of conscience, then your brain is an interesting space!

You can write however you please, but I will tell you it's very difficult to follow your train of thought. Which in turn will make it very difficult to offer any useful advice. If you stick to a more factual presentation of the situation I think you will find the replies you get will be more helpful as well as more plentiful.

 

On the feeding rate, there is a Canadian university, can't remember the name off hand, that did an excellent feeding study and identified that with a group of mature koi, just about as big as they get, the minimum feeding rate is 1.5% of total body weight. 2 to 3.5% is the range for a koi school with juveniles, your choice. Championship pond owners do what they call power feeding at 4% above 65 degrees water temp. The guys are spot on, you are low. You will see that your fish will lose their fusiform shape and develop an indentation behind the gill cover if they are underfed. I've seen that effect in as many as 75% of my pond visits with fish problems.

 

Yes, 1% of body weight is entirely too low of a feeding rate for carp/koi. 3% is typically recommended for adult fish. (If fish are raised in an earthen-bottom pond, the feeding rate is about half this.) You can arrive at more exact rates by drilling down on details such a weight of individual fish, feed composition, stocking densities and temperature.The rate for fry and fingerlings is a good bit higher.
You are right about not hearing of fish starving to death. That is because they succumb to some disease or pathogen attack before this can happen. Starving (or even chronic underfeeding) a fish will greatly weaken its immune response setting the stage for premature mortality.

 

all response read . please post in my DIY rescue tank string .. .. i think last year i fed 120 lbs floating catfish food , consider though in the big tank quite a lot of string algae . i often see them grazing on the sides . not to mention breeding population of fatheads ,, and feeder gold fish .. ..all in the 13K gallon tank [ in failure now..i think its 40 years old .. ] .. i will be so happy when i +finally + net out the fish and move them to the rescue tank.. , tear it out and the old deck . open up all that square foot for beds .. ..
plan is to rescue fish .. place in rescue tank , tear out that 16 x 32 oval , and the deck , install an 18 foot dia 54 inch tank ,, round , .. move fish again , relocate the rescue .. .. the 18 dia with 4 foot water should be 7 k gallon , the 12 dia rescue with 4 foot water 3k gallon . ..

dreams ,, dreams to remember ..i got dreams to remember ..