Bare Root Water Lilies....

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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    I was gonna do the mesh but then thought my fish might get stuck in it so just laid some rocks over the roots. If they come loose I may ties some fish line around the tubers loosely just so they can't escape the pots.
     
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    I am tempted to try this. But my lilies did so well last year, I'd hate to NOT see all the blooms if it doesn't work out. I realize they will get nutrients from the water, but I don't see how they could get as much as when you fertilize with tabs every couple weeks. Sure would be INFINITELY easier not having to pot AND not having to fertilize.

    What's the purpose of the pot if there is no soil or cat litter in it? Is that just a means to anchor it so it isn't floating around? I seem to recall a thread last summer I think that you can just toss 'em in the water and let 'em do their thing that way. Mine would be sucked up by my skimmer, or splashed by the waterfall I'm afraid.
     
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    I am going to do this. Two of my lilies need to be divided, so it will be a good chance to experiment. I'm all about whatever is easiest!
     
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    I had some sort of escape their pots, ended up being free in the pond. To be honest the ones in the pots bloomed more. The ones free did fine, just not as may blooms.

    But then again, I don't have a ton of fish to the size of pond I have, so maybe not enough poo
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Yep the pots I use are just to restrain them from falling off the shelves by pushy fish and out of the way when I net the bottom. Anxious to see how they do this year w/o any soil.
     
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    I planted mine in oil pans with kitty litter and used Osamacote, then secured with fencing and zip ties.....nothing easy about growing lilies with koi!
     
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    How does one fertilize free floating lilies?
     
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    addy1 water gardener / gold fish and shubunkins Moderator

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    you don't they sort of start collection the pond muck around their roots, get food from the water and fish poo
     
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    bare root and freefloating are 2 different things... lillies are bare root 'planted'. instead of soil you put htem in a mesh pot and river rock or gravel. something that allows for water flow and direct contact between root and water. absolutely no need for fertilizing. thaey draw nutrients from the water. this helps keep cleaner healthier water. thays the whole purpose of it. you can just place a rhizone on the floor of pond and place a few nice coconut size stones around it to keep it down. let the roots grow and remove ammonias, nitrates, etc..from the water. freefloting plannts are water hyacinths, lettuce, frogbit, etc.. same idea. dont feed them , let them feed on the pond.
     
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    I had put mine in square baskets and covered the top of the baskets with mesh, but pulled the mesh off yesterday as I was afraid the leaves might not be able to find their way up to and through the mesh openings. At this point, what leaves there are are few & far between. I have the baskets weighted with a rock and I zip-tied the tubers [rhizomes, whatever they are] loosly to the basket so they would stay there and not float out. Right now, I have the baskets suspended off the bottom of the pond [tied to liner rocks] until they start to grow more, then I'll move them to the bottom. I might put a little gravel in the baskets, just to give the roots something to grab onto.

    We seem to have more tree growth this year, so I HOPE the lilies can get enough sunlight!
     
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    I just set mine in the bottom of the holy baskets and put rocks on some of the roots and am hoping the roots will grow through the bottom or sides of the baskets and attach themselves so I can then take out some of the rocks.
     
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    Thank you for the help guys, much appreciated.
     
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    Mmathis TurtleMommy

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    Where do you get the "holy baskets?" Maybe I can get our Priest to bless mine.....


    (Just kidding, JW -- couldn't help myself :angelic: )
     
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    Darn, you beat me to it, TM! I think she has them sprinkled with holy water! :rolleyes:
    John
     
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    j.w I Love my Goldies

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    Ha Ha guys,my direct line to God gives me enough holy spit to do my own blessings as I'm such and angel [​IMG]
     
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    Oooooohhhh! Holy SPIT! For a second there I thought you said... oh, never mind!
     
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    I tried growing some calla's in the pond last year. They seemed to take off well if I set the bulbs only partially submerged (about half out of the water), but if I put them fully in the water the bulbs started to rot. Unfortunately at this level, the bulbs were guaranteed to freeze over the Winter, so I thought maybe burying them in the dirt right up against the pond liner might be worth a shot (callas will not normally survive Winter in my area, so I was counting on heat from the water to prevent freezing). Unfortunately it looks like this experiment may have failed... So far I have seen no sign that any of the bulbs survived, however the weather has been questionable so maybe they're just waiting for the real heat before they pop up.

    Crossing my fingers, but hope is fleeting.
     
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    Sorry to hear that, and crossing my fingers for you! Sometimes you never know how how something will work out until you try it!
     
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    Yeah that was the idea... My wife just loves callas, so I was really hoping I could use the heat from the pond to keep them from freezing. Honestly with the harsh Winter we all had, if even ONE of them comes back up this year I will consider it a success!
     
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    Update on lilies, I have some bare root, some in a floating net, bare root, some in kitty litter

    They all are slow this year but:

    bare root barely growing
    bare root in netting, barely growing, i.e. one leaf to surface
    kitty litter a bunch of nice leaves to surface and some buds
     
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